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Paul Skenes ROY no longer a lock?
Posted on 8/13/24 at 10:20 am
Posted on 8/13/24 at 10:20 am
FanDuel
Skenes -300
Jackson Merrill +160. .289 17HR .800 OPS
Skenes has been as much as -3000. Merrill was +1500 a week+ ago.
Supposed Merrill is the top CF in the NL. Played all season . Hit 4 game tying HRs in the 8th or later in a 12 game span. Padres 4 game lead for the wildcard. Pirates 4th to last in the NL.
Skenes -300
Jackson Merrill +160. .289 17HR .800 OPS
Skenes has been as much as -3000. Merrill was +1500 a week+ ago.
Supposed Merrill is the top CF in the NL. Played all season . Hit 4 game tying HRs in the 8th or later in a 12 game span. Padres 4 game lead for the wildcard. Pirates 4th to last in the NL.
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Posted on 8/13/24 at 10:35 am to lsu xman
It doesn't help that Skenes has slumped since the all-star break.
Pre AS
6-0
11 GS
66.1 IP
48 hits
14 ER
13 walks
89 SO
.202 OBA
1.90 ERA
Post AS
0-2
4 GS
25.2 IP
20 hits
9 ER
7 walks
26 SO
.215 OBA
3.16 ERA
And he just allowed the most runs in a game all season, with 4 against the Dodgers.
Pre AS
6-0
11 GS
66.1 IP
48 hits
14 ER
13 walks
89 SO
.202 OBA
1.90 ERA
Post AS
0-2
4 GS
25.2 IP
20 hits
9 ER
7 walks
26 SO
.215 OBA
3.16 ERA
And he just allowed the most runs in a game all season, with 4 against the Dodgers.
This post was edited on 8/13/24 at 10:38 am
Posted on 8/13/24 at 10:43 am to Cowboyfan89
Padres are also hot while the Pirates have hit the skids since Houston
Posted on 8/13/24 at 10:49 am to Cowboyfan89
I mean the ERA is mostly just that one game. should level out.
the concern is his velocity is down a bit.
hasn’t been throwing as many 100 mph pitches. maybe just a strategy thing.
but he’s been solid for the most part. the dodgers are just good
the concern is his velocity is down a bit.
hasn’t been throwing as many 100 mph pitches. maybe just a strategy thing.
but he’s been solid for the most part. the dodgers are just good
Posted on 8/13/24 at 10:50 am to Cowboyfan89
Skenes next start is Seattle on Friday. Hoping for a 6-7IP shutout.
9 more possible starts.
I have a lot of money riding on Skenes for ROY.
9 more possible starts.
I have a lot of money riding on Skenes for ROY.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 10:51 am to SammyTiger
Pirates are going to manage his workload as they fall further out of the race
Posted on 8/13/24 at 10:56 am to lsu xman
That is some very interesting line movement.
Some books had taken the NL ROY bet off the table b/c Skenes was such a heavy favorite.
He's had 2 so so outings in a row, and Merrill has been hot.
Skenes has some good matchups to pad some stats over his last 8 starts. Seattle is the worst hitting team in the MLB and strikeout more than anyone and that's who he has next. There's 6 more games against the bottom half of the league in BA, although 4 of those 6 are teams that dont' strike out a lot and are in the top 10 in the league in least amount of K's.
It's still Skenes ROY to lose. His team sucks, but what he does on the mound isn't dependent on his shitty team helping him get a win.
He still has the best ERA in the NL at 2.25. Sale is at 2.61
He's still 2nd in WHIP at .96. Glasnow is at .95 and Sale at .97
He's still 3rd in K/9 at 11.3. Sale at 11.8
He's still 3rd in BB/9 at 1.95. Imanaga leads at 1.33
He's tied for 5th in OBA at .205 with Sale. Hunter Green is 1st at .186
Some books had taken the NL ROY bet off the table b/c Skenes was such a heavy favorite.
He's had 2 so so outings in a row, and Merrill has been hot.
Skenes has some good matchups to pad some stats over his last 8 starts. Seattle is the worst hitting team in the MLB and strikeout more than anyone and that's who he has next. There's 6 more games against the bottom half of the league in BA, although 4 of those 6 are teams that dont' strike out a lot and are in the top 10 in the league in least amount of K's.
It's still Skenes ROY to lose. His team sucks, but what he does on the mound isn't dependent on his shitty team helping him get a win.
He still has the best ERA in the NL at 2.25. Sale is at 2.61
He's still 2nd in WHIP at .96. Glasnow is at .95 and Sale at .97
He's still 3rd in K/9 at 11.3. Sale at 11.8
He's still 3rd in BB/9 at 1.95. Imanaga leads at 1.33
He's tied for 5th in OBA at .205 with Sale. Hunter Green is 1st at .186
Posted on 8/13/24 at 10:57 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
As much as I hate to say it, I think Jackson Merrill takes it now. I took Skenes at +1200 back in May.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 10:57 am to SammyTiger
quote:
the concern is his velocity is down a bit.
Same thing happened to Gausman
Posted on 8/13/24 at 11:00 am to lsu xman
Buccos bullpen shite the bed to the point they're now out of contention.
They'll shut Paul down after a few more starts.
They'll shut Paul down after a few more starts.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 11:09 am to lsu xman
I'd also argue he's no longer a lock for the HOF
Posted on 8/13/24 at 11:16 am to WestCoastAg
Pirates need to draft Skenes OLine/Bullpen help or do the right thing and trade him to the Yankees for draft picks
Posted on 8/13/24 at 11:31 am to lsu xman
Anyone know what Skenes starts are projected to be going forward?
Going to be in Chicago for the Pirates series for the Cubs and am hoping I picked the correct game
Going to be in Chicago for the Pirates series for the Cubs and am hoping I picked the correct game
Posted on 8/13/24 at 11:35 am to Fun Bunch
Monday 8/26 is when he should be scheduled to pitch against the Cubs.
He'd be scheduled on 9/1 to pitch against Cleveland and wouldn't pitch in the next Cubs series starting on 9/2
He'd be scheduled on 9/1 to pitch against Cleveland and wouldn't pitch in the next Cubs series starting on 9/2
Posted on 8/13/24 at 11:49 am to TeddyPadillac
I placed a small wager on Jackson Merrill to win it last week
Banking on Skenes being done in early September and Merrill using the last month to overtake him (if he hasn’t already)
Banking on Skenes being done in early September and Merrill using the last month to overtake him (if he hasn’t already)
Posted on 8/13/24 at 11:50 am to Cowboyfan89
Dude needs his nuts emptied Livy been jet setting around the world, she needs to come back and take care of her man
Posted on 8/13/24 at 12:27 pm to lsu xman
If The Pirates fall out of the wild card race, and they are getting pretty close to realizing that reality now....Skeenes will not finish the season and that will further jeopardize his chances.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 12:33 pm to SammyTiger
quote:
the concern is his velocity is down a bit.
It's not a concern, it's a reality. If he was low 90's, it would be a concern. He never sat at 102-103, even at LSU. 97-100 is his normal range.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 12:59 pm to The Pirate King
quote:
It's not a concern, it's a reality.
yes, I think small downturns in velocity over a full and long season are not at all uncommon, in fact probably expected, especially since he's about at the most total innings he's pitched in a season and the more he goes past that number the more and more likely he may lose another MPH or two.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 1:31 pm to Tiger Ugly
quote:
especially since he's about at the most total innings he's pitched in a season and the more he goes past that number the more and more likely he may lose another MPH or two.
I think it's more so due to him pitching on 4-5 days rest now between starts as opposed to the 6 days he had between every start until the College World Series in college. He's now been doing that for several months, so I would expect that would wear on a guy in his first full professional season. He was still throwing more than half his fastballs over 100 his last start of the season in college, so I don't think it's the total innings that's causing a lack in velo in August
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