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Pac-2 + MWC Considering Promotion/Relegation Model
Posted on 9/21/23 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 9/21/23 at 1:42 pm
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Preserving two separate conferences is maybe the most important part of this concept. The Mountain West and Pac-2 would strike a partnership around a relegation system for football and be managed by a single commissioner, though their membership may fluctuate — at least in football — on an annual or biannual basis.
The conferences, if kept separate and recognized as such by both the NCAA and College Football Playoff, would:
Retain the millions of dollars in assets in existence within the Pac-12, including at least $50 million in NCAA tournament basketball shares, more than $40 million in reserves and whatever else (Pac-12 network infrastructure, etc.).
Retain automatic qualifying spots in NCAA championship tournaments for each league’s champion in all sports except football.
Retain revenue distribution from the CFP for each league (a real question).
The idea starts with the Pac-12 and Mountain West each having at least eight members for a total of 16 teams. Think of it as a Pac-12 division and a Mountain West division under the umbrella of this football-relegation partnership.
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It's coming from anonymous sources at this point, but I could see those conferences buying into something like that. Boise State is actually trying to propose that as a nationwide model, but there's 0% chance that catches on in my opinion LINK
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Posted on 9/21/23 at 1:43 pm to TDawg1313
That would be cool as frick having the pac 10 live and start relegation
Posted on 9/21/23 at 1:46 pm to TDawg1313
I'm all for this and I think it will be very interesting.
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 9/21/23 at 1:53 pm to TDawg1313
This is fricking awesome.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 1:54 pm to TDawg1313
I’ve been for promotion/relegation for years. Love it!
Posted on 9/21/23 at 1:55 pm to TDawg1313
How would it work for non-football though?
When Air Force football gets promoted, does their shitty basketball team get to play in the PAC or do the other sports always stay in the MWC while their football team plays in the PAC?
When Air Force football gets promoted, does their shitty basketball team get to play in the PAC or do the other sports always stay in the MWC while their football team plays in the PAC?
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:00 pm to Tiger Prawn
quote:those would remain separate
How would it work for non-football though?
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:18 pm to TDawg1313
This is wise that they are thinking outside the box, though I think ultimately this is more about some stubbornness on the part of the MWC being against a simple “reverse merger”. The PAC brand is too valuable to simply let vanish. The conference also has some still valuable assets.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:20 pm to TDawg1313
I’d watch the hell out of a relegation conference.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:31 pm to TDawg1313
That’ll do.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:34 pm to TDawg1313
Please let this be true.
As a huge soccer fan, it's actually awesome to care about the bottom table teams fighting at then end of the season to survive and stay up.
In 2023, no one is watching Utah St and San Jose St play a conference game in November, but if it were a game that decided who's staying and who's going down then it's a different story.
As a huge soccer fan, it's actually awesome to care about the bottom table teams fighting at then end of the season to survive and stay up.
In 2023, no one is watching Utah St and San Jose St play a conference game in November, but if it were a game that decided who's staying and who's going down then it's a different story.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:35 pm to lsusa
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though I think ultimately this is more about some stubbornness on the part of the MWC being against a simple “reverse merger”. The PAC brand is too valuable to simply let vanish. The conference also has some still valuable assets.
I could also see the two remaining PAC schools trying to maintain some of the integrity of that conference.
Schools like San Jose State and New Mexico are perennial losers that struggle to draw 12K people to many home games. Keep those schools in the MWC unless they start winning. Allow bigger brands like Boise, Fresno, and San Diego State into the PAC alongside OSU and WSU.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:43 pm to TDawg1313
Just a bunch of west coast commies tryna ghey up a great American sport. Sad!
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:48 pm to saint tiger225
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commies tryna ghey up a great American sport
Can't tell if you're trolling or not, but just in case, you do realize pro/rel is the exact opposite of commie right?
Posted on 9/21/23 at 3:07 pm to TDawg1313
I’m so pissed the ACC allowed Stanford and Cal in. They should have left those teams in the mess they created.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 3:34 pm to lsusa
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The PAC brand is too valuable to simply let vanish.
But they’re only contributing two teams and the MWC has all 14 of theirs
Posted on 9/21/23 at 3:46 pm to LolStarFishlol
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I’m so pissed the ACC allowed Stanford and Cal in. They should have left those teams in the mess they created.
Seconded.
ND going to bat for those two pissed me off since ND is only an affiliate member and not a full member.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 3:59 pm to TDawg1313
Promotion/Relegation sounds cool, but it only kinda works in English soccer because they have tons of interconnected leagues and in theory your regional level 4 club could one day play up to the Premier League.
It won't work the same way in college football with only 2 levels. And for those yall who hate NIL this would only make NIL worse without serious changes.
All that said, promotion/relegation could possibly work for college basketball using tournament placing as the trigger. Also don't have to deal with the schedule issue since college b-ball schedules are done in the off-season, not years in advance.
It won't work the same way in college football with only 2 levels. And for those yall who hate NIL this would only make NIL worse without serious changes.
All that said, promotion/relegation could possibly work for college basketball using tournament placing as the trigger. Also don't have to deal with the schedule issue since college b-ball schedules are done in the off-season, not years in advance.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 4:23 pm to TDawg1313
I don’t think promotion/relegation translates well to collegiate sports where athletes have a limit of four years of eligibility. The transfer portal is already insane, imagine all of the players that would hit the portal for a relegated team.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 4:47 pm to NOLALGD
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All that said, promotion/relegation could possibly work for college basketball using tournament placing as the trigger.
????
That would be terrible with such a small sample size determining that
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