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re: Oregon player called out at home due to malicious contact

Posted on 5/31/25 at 10:45 am to
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 5/31/25 at 10:45 am to
The ump



Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/31/25 at 10:45 am to
quote:

Well that destroys all of pride's arguments
Nope. Not even close

It’s very simple. The catcher establishes himself in front of the plate before a throw is ever made.

He immediately walked in front of the plate right as the pop fly is going out

Catcher up the line and in front of the plate with the Oregon runner still on third waiting to tag

This post was edited on 5/31/25 at 10:51 am
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
28738 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 10:52 am to
quote:

3. What is the position of the throw to the plate?
a. If the ball is in flight directly toward and near enough to the fielder (within 60
feet) that the catcher can make a legitimate effort to field the throw, he is in the
act of fielding and can be blocking the runner’s pathway


Rule interpretation
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104735 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 10:53 am to
Right. And the catcher is up the line in front of the plate with the Oregon runner still on third….

quote:

The “act of fielding” in Rule 8-7-c is defined as a “legitimate attempt to field the throw, ” providing the example of “in reaction to the direction, trajectory or the hop of the incoming throw, or in reaction to a throw that originates from the pitcher or drawn-in infielder.
He is in front of the plate before reacting to a single thing. It’s clear it’s obstruction from the own rule you posted



The umps on the field made what most would call the correct call:calling nothing

But if you are going to review it and change the call on field it’s 100% obstruction. You can’t hang out in front of home plate before any throw is made and stay there
This post was edited on 5/31/25 at 10:57 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104735 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 10:57 am to
quote:

The ump
The ump did nothing wrong.
Posted by Othello
the Neptonian Steel Mines
Member since Aug 2013
24421 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 10:59 am to
What a terrible call!
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
36789 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 11:03 am to
quote:

The crew made the right call. Repay was clearly rigged is my only thought
Must have been some big money riding on Utah Valley moneyline.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
144296 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 11:10 am to
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The ump did nothing wrong.

Correct... the ruling on the field was runner safe at home

It was the replay official in Pittsburgh who overturned it to no obstruction, malicious contact, runner out & ejected (ETA: & auto suspended for Saturday's game)

Don't blame the umps on the field... blame the replay official all the way across the country
This post was edited on 5/31/25 at 11:12 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104735 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 11:13 am to
Also, just to be even more clear it was obstruction, the rule also reads you can block the plate if “in the act of receiving the ball”

The ball was past the catcher. He already blew it and the ball was way past him. He was no longer receiving the ball. He had “tried to receive the ball before and fricking sucked” when contact was made
Posted by Corporal Beavis
Member since Aug 2013
1248 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 11:23 am to
Looks like an SEC ump to me
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/31/25 at 11:32 am to
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Right call, runner clearly intended to hurt the catcher instead of trying to score. No attempt at a slide, he was just focused on tackling.


Didnt tackle, the Catcher blocked the plate without the ball.

The play was justified, the call was horrible.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
95963 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 12:26 pm to
Really a bummer for our Duckies
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12920 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 1:13 pm to
The fact the kid misses the next game too is just the cherry on top of the shite sundae here.
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
58737 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 4:51 pm to
This is a long rule and alot goes into it.

LINK

basically as I read it two things are at play, one of which is being overlooked by many IMO.

1) the player must avoid contact if there is a clear path to the plate. While this is arguable, if he slides to the side of the base he could touch home plate.
2) the catcher cannot block home plate without the possession of the ball. Unless he is attempting to field the ball. Even though the catcher in said play never had the ball, you can argue that he was in a position to make a play on the ball.

Rule 8-7a3 was applied here and is why the player was ejected.

quote:

3) The runner must attempt to avoid a collision if he can reach the base without colliding.

PENALTY—If the contact is flagrant or malicious after the runner touches the base (plate), the runner is safe, but is ejected from the contest. The ball is immediately dead and all other base runners shall return to the last base touched at the time of the collision. If this occurs at any base other than home, the offending team may replace the runner. If the contact occurs after a preceding runner touches home plate, the preceding runner is safe. The ball is immediately dead and all other base runners shall return to the last base touched at the time of the contact.


I get that this used to be a part of baseball, but the rules are the rules. If he is sliding at this point they may have given him home, but because he was still upright when he made contact, I completely get why they ejected him and called him out.
This post was edited on 5/31/25 at 4:59 pm
Posted by Froman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
37657 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 5:08 pm to
quote:

I’m glad you posted that frame


It further makes you look like an idiot so if that’s what you’re going for than good for you I guess.
This post was edited on 5/31/25 at 5:09 pm
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
32858 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 5:28 pm to
quote:

Didnt tackle, the Catcher blocked the plate without the ball. The play was justified, the call was horrible.


Might wanna read the actual rules bro
Posted by MMauler
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Member since Jun 2013
22559 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 5:28 pm to
quote:

Right call, runner clearly intended to hurt the catcher instead of trying to score.



You must be a f*cking Democrat. Only a Democrat could be that much of a fricking pussy.

And Democrats are wondering why all real men are leaving their party.
Posted by HangmanPage1
Wild West
Member since Aug 2021
1789 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 5:39 pm to
The worst part is the coach from Directional Utah or wherever getting hyped that he is getting a break on a bs technicality. What a puss he looks like
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 5/31/25 at 6:04 pm to
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/31/25 at 6:13 pm to
I thought the catcher could
Not be in base path without ball in glove?

I guess he dove head first late?

Is that the call?
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