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re: Official Louisiana High School Baseball Mega-Thread 2023

Posted on 5/12/23 at 10:22 am to
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 10:22 am to
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You have a team that wouldn’t make the playoffs without the split in the title game in D1 Select. Rummel would be the 34 seed this year in 5A.


I just think NOLA teams in general don’t understand the power rating system and whom you should play and shouldn’t play
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 10:25 am to
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Link to where I said they would be dominating

And barbe is the best baseball program in the states history. I said nothing disparaging about them or any other specific team, for that matter. frickin dope.


i didnt say you said anything bad. its just that you acted like the catholic league dominated or something before the split and that not true. honestly since 1990 its been

Barbe-11 ships
St Amant- 5 ships
jesuit- 5 ships
Rummel- 1
BM-1
ESJ-2
WM- 2
EA-1
Catholic-3
JC-5 (none in 5a)


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Sulphur and west Monroe disappeared off and on from the states landscape after the late 90’s for years before recently


this is like sulphur 4th or 5th run to the semis in last 20 years. and since sam moore took over they have been pretty damn consistently good. not always great but good.

Wm made plenty of deep runs. but private schools didnt effect them really. what has caused their rise is the rise in popularity in baseball vs football. many of the kids on the team today would have been football only kids a decade ago. ask the WM folks....they have complained about the best football kids becoming baseball only for a couple years now. they have built the program the last 5-8 years into a monster with the feeder travel programs that are consistently some of the best in the state

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Sam Houston has never won shite at the highest level and it’s never been easier,


SH has only been 5a for around a decade and have been pretty damn good for last 2 decades since the 2001 team won the 4a ship. chad didnt even get there until 2017 and he was damn good coach after he followed blankenship at st louis after ross took WM job(which he did very well at btw)


my point was...the split in baseball has helped the select schools more than the non select except in Div 2 which has become stupid hard on the select side.

your whole premise that the split helped some of the public schools become dominant powers is wrong. if anything its the opposite.
Posted by Tigerfan1274
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 10:30 am to
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A question was raided earlier and it quickly went away, and I found it interesting. What player from Barbe had the best college career? What player from Barbe had the best professional career?


I have heard this from Barbe haters and I don’t really think it’s fair. Yes, many have not lived up to their hype coming out of Barbe whether it be in college or professional ball. But I don’t see how that is a knock on Barbe.
Posted by TigerAlum93
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 10:30 am to
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So the theories about the same systems are pretty much way of


if by system...you mean year around training and forcing competition where best players play no matter what...yea. weight lifting year around, long toss programs and bat speed programs in the off season etc...all the better programs in the area are doign that. Using tech...all are.

but if you mean exact same systems...not really. St Louis does a ton of stuff barbe does but none of them are exact copies.

but they all do what barbe does in making practice way harder than the game from a skill point of view. as in hitting way harder than what will be hit at them in the game, using the hack attack to ensure you can see velo and crazy movement outside of live at bats and just work, work, work...yea all doing that.

you will have barbe guys hitting at 9pm in the cages, even on the field almost every night.

st louis...kids in there at 9pm almost everytime im there getting work in outside practice. sure its the same at SH too.




Many teams work hard, kids stay after, etc. NOBODY runs a better program than the Cecchini family. They live baseball 24/7/365. It is real easy for a guy pushing 60 years old in the twilight of his career to be set in his ways, status quo, but Glenn constantly evolves, learns, adjusts, tweaks, and with passion. I promise you that the day after the title game, he will be evaluating himself/the program, thinking and exploring new ways to evolve. His attention to detail is what separates him from most program managers, detail on the field but especially away from it. What and when the players eat pregame, how much volume of work in-season/off-season, recovery, the material of their uniforms, not to mention the mental side. He covers it all very thoroughly. Hustles to improve the facility constantly. Busts his tail with fundraising. Does not think he knows it all, very open minded to talking to others who may have a better way of doing it. He is one of a kind.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 10:32 am to
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What player from Barbe had the best college career?


college is hard to say. Wade leblanc had good career at alabama but if i had to pick one....outside of the ones at McNeese & Ull(as quite a few had great careers there) prolly be chad cooley at LSU or Brashaer at OM. Gabe Scott was at bama a long time too.


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What played from Barbe had the best professional career?



wade leblanc and joe lawerance and its not really close. only like 5 or 6 actually made the show.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31820 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 10:45 am to
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I have heard this from Barbe haters and I don’t really think it’s fair. Yes, many have not lived up to their hype coming out of Barbe whether it be in college or professional ball. But I don’t see how that is a knock on Barbe.


its a dumb knock. The LC metro area is only about 200k or so. The amount of prospects being pumped out is insnae. the Cechhini family is responsible for that growth for the most part. Their job is to get kids to maximize the kids ability. if that gets them to college and they are topped out....so what, means Glenn got the most out of them.


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Many teams work hard, kids stay after, etc. NOBODY runs a better program than the Cecchini family. They live baseball 24/7/365.


i think you misunderstood....the reason the kids are up there working that hard is because Glenn is there working that hard too. He is the one there at 5am and 8pm pushing them to get better and better. the work ehtic when it comes to baseball almost exclusively can be traced back to him and his work ethic.

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They live baseball 24/7/365. It is real easy for a guy pushing 60 years old in the twilight of his career to be set in his ways, status quo, but Glenn constantly evolves, learns, adjusts, tweaks, and with passion. I promise you that the day after the title game, he will be evaluating himself/the program, thinking and exploring new ways to evolve


100%, he is the best motivator i have ever been around.

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His attention to detail is what separates him from most program managers, detail on the field but especially away from it. What and when the players eat pregame, how much volume of work in-season/off-season, recovery, the material of their uniforms, not to mention the mental side. He covers it all very thoroughly.


agreed. and that was what i meant by yea...the system is kind of the same but its less a system and more a mentality that everythign matters. off season/in season etc...doesnt matter when or what it is...it matters. and if it matters work to be the best at it.

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Hustles to improve the facility constantly. Busts his tail with fundraising. Does not think he knows it all, very open minded to talking to others who may have a better way of doing it. He is one of a kind.


agreed. the facilities are out of this world and are only getting better.

best thing about Glen though(outside of being a really good person) is he is always open to share and talk about how and why he does somethign. Also his players graduate HS with great grades....because he frickign demands it. this is something he has gotten more and more strict about as he has gotten older. dont see many not elgible comign from there.

im not saying everythign they do is perfect...its not, but they do the best they can with the resources they have. not going to be able to individualize every single program for training every single player. But he does a great job of saying......ok these are the things that matter....how do we improve them as a whole with what we have. and then does good job of helping get that done. His sons are the same way.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 10:46 am to
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didnt say you said anything bad. its just that you acted like the catholic league dominated or something before the split and that not true. honestly since 1990 its been



In the 20 years before the split, 13 current select teams either played for or won the state championship. And if deep runs are your thing the list would only be longer.

I mean, the math is pretty easy to do. You remove 5-6 annual contenders and someone has to fill that void. None of what I am saying is all that controversial.
This post was edited on 5/12/23 at 10:51 am
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
62431 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 10:54 am to
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I have heard this from Barbe haters and I don’t really think it’s fair. Yes, many have not lived up to their hype coming out of Barbe whether it be in college or professional ball. But I don’t see how that is a knock on Barbe


I didn’t phrase it as a “knock”. I was curious.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31820 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 10:54 am to
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In the 20 years before the split, a select team either played for or won the state championship.

I mean, the math is pretty easy to do. You remove 5-6 annual contenders and someone has to fill that void. None of what I am saying is all that controversial.



5 or 6....you mean jesuit and catholic? i mean dont get me wrong Rummel has been good but it was more those 2 every year

and remember if not for the split, JC would prolly still be 3a or 4a.

dont get me wrong, jesuit is a powerhouse, have been for a long time and i dont think what you said is controversial. I just think moving to the select/non select split has helped the bigger select schools more than anyone outside of jesuit and catholic. they have always been good.

the split allowed the catholic league to only have 2 or 3 real contenders with them in select 5a.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
62431 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 10:57 am to
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college is hard to say. Wade leblanc had good career at alabama but if i had to pick one....outside of the ones at McNeese & Ull(as quite a few had great careers there) prolly be chad cooley at LSU or Brashaer at OM. Gabe Scott was at bama a long time too.


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wade leblanc and joe lawerance and its not really close. only like 5 or 6 actually made the show.


Appreciate it
Posted by TigerAlum93
Member since Sep 2010
3010 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 11:07 am to
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i think you misunderstood....the reason the kids are up there working that hard is because Glenn is there working that hard too. He is the one there at 5am and 8pm pushing them to get better and better. the work ehtic when it comes to baseball almost exclusively can be traced back to him and his work ethic.


I did not misunderstand. Thank you for your input.
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
8780 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 11:13 am to
It’s time for some parity in HS baseball
Posted by Tigerfan1274
Member since May 2019
3293 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 11:16 am to
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I didn’t phrase it as a “knock”. I was curious.


My bad. Didn’t mean to lump you in with that group.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31820 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 11:23 am to
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I did not misunderstand. Thank you for your input.


ok didnt want you to think i was saying glenn wasnt the reason because he is or i was talking bad about him, anything but. his work ethic is unmatched.




I do have a question for the board though

LC has Barbe, St Louis, Sam Houston, Sulphur
Laff- has STM, TC, southside
Houma/Thib- ED White/VC
BR- STA, Zachary, Dutchtown, Catholic, Live oak, Destrahan, Central, Uhigh etc
Nola- Jesuit, Rummel, BM, JC, St Charles
Sport- Byrd, Benton, parkway
Monroe- WM, Oak Grove, Sterlington, neville, Ouachita Christian etc



all of the above have been competing for ships for a while now or have been really good in baseball....my question is...

where the hell are the northshore kids going? They have the Knights org there and its an affluent area with lots of travel teams from the area. where are the kids going for HS?
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
22413 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 11:43 am to
As far as Northshore goes, not from there, but Lakeshore has done well recently in multiple sports

Back to your question on SH, one thing I can add is that they don't suffer with financial support

I attended their baseball/softball fundraiser year before this one, when the hurricane monies had yet to arrive, and the amount they raised was the most I had ever witnessed

Just for those 2 sports. I mean well beyond what private schools typically generate
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31820 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 11:52 am to
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As far as Northshore goes, not from there, but Lakeshore has done well recently in multiple sports

Back to your question on SH, one thing I can add is that they don't suffer with financial support

I attended their baseball/softball fundraiser year before this one, when the hurricane monies had yet to arrive, and the amount they raised was the most I had ever witnessed

Just for those 2 sports. I mean well beyond what private schools typically generate



doesnt surprise me. 100k raised from an auction for an area school is not unheard of for sure.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34525 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 11:54 am to
You get so bent out of shape when someone doesn’t fellate you and tell you how amazing you are after you post.


You and SFP have some of the biggest egos I’ve ever come across in my entire life. Are y’all like this IRL or just online?
Posted by Ron Cheramie
The Cajun Hedgehog
Member since Aug 2016
5164 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 11:59 am to
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all of the above have been competing for ships for a while now or have been really good in baseball....my question is...


Same question but Alexandria/Pineville. What’s up with that area?
Posted by SaturdayTraditions
Down Seven Bridges Rd
Member since Sep 2015
3284 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 12:05 pm to
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Same question but Alexandria/Pineville. What’s up with that area?



Tioga
Menard
ASH
now Pineville


also smaller schools like Grace Christian, Oak Hill historically...

A lot of good baseball being played. Just too spread out for a smaller populace to create a powerhouse year in and year out.
Posted by HangmanPage1
Wild West
Member since Aug 2021
1475 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 12:08 pm to
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Same question but Alexandria/Pineville. What’s up with that area?
Tioga recently had a state title and a runner up, within the last few years. They are 4A. Grace Christian and Menard are very good, I think Menard might win it this year. Most of the those in the Knights organization in CenLa go to Menard. Pineville and ASH get who they get, usually those dual sport athletes. Menard gets most of the guys who play baseball and they have more money to invest in better facilities, coaches, and training. There is no large private school in CenLa except Menard, who is 2A and they are state contenders every year just about in baseball and softball.
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