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NYY request to keep "Yankee Letter" private denied...UPDATE: Letter released

Posted on 4/21/22 at 1:11 pm
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 1:11 pm
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Evan Drellich @EvanDrellich
BREAKING: The Yankees Letter is expected to be released within 7 days. The Yankees’ appeal to keep the letter private has been denied by the 2nd Circuit. Absent a stay for cert to Supreme Court — which a source says Yankees do not plan to pursue — case becomes final in 7 days.


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Evan Drellich @EvanDrellich
Yankees president Randy Levine on Second Circuit’s denial of his appeal to keep letter private: "We’re disappointed by the Court of Appeals' decision, but we respect it. However, I believe that as described in my petition, this will lead to a lot of bad results down the road."

more stuff on sign stealing in baseball... and it involves the MLB's most iconic franchise

ETA: SNY releases the letter

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The Yankee Letter, addressed to senior vice president and general manager Brian Cashman, is dated Sept. 14, 2017. It begins:

Dear Brian:

On August 23, 2017, the New York Yankees filed a formal complaint and requested that the Office of the Commissioner "conduct a full and complete investigation concerning the illegal use of electronic equipment, in game, by the Boston Red Sox in order to steal signs and gain an illegal advantage in the game." As a result of the Yankees complaint, I directed the Department of Investigations to interview a number of employees of the Red Sox and the Yankees in connection with this matter. Based on the information we received, I have concluded that the Red Sox violated On-Field Regulation 1-2.A by using electronic equipment for the purpose of stealing signs or conveying information designed to give a Club an advantage." I will address this violation of the On-Field Regulations directly with the Red Sox.

During our investigation into the Red Sox's misconduct, [Redacted] informed the Department of Investigations that the Yankees used a similar scheme to that of the Red Sox to decode opposing Clubs' signs and relay them to the batter when a runner was on second base. [Redacted] -- who initially noticed that the Red Sox were using a smartwatch to pass information to their players -- admitted to the Department of Investigations that during the 2015 season and the first half of the 2016 season, [Redacted], provided information about opposing Club's signs to players and members of the coaching staff in the replay room at Yankee Stadium, who then physically relayed the information to the Yankees' dugout. [Redacted] also admitted that during that same time period, in certain stadiums on the road where the video room was not proximate to the dugout, used the phone line in the replay room to orally provide real-time information about opposing Club's signs to Yankee coaches on the bench.

[....]

The Yankees' use of the dugout phone to relay information about an opposing Club's signs during the 2015 season, and part of the 2016 season, constitutes a material violation of the Replay Review Regulations. By using the phone in the video review room to instantaneously transmit information regarding signs to the dugout in violation of the Regulations, the Yankees were able to provide real-time information to their players regarding an opposing Club's sign sequence - the same objective of the Red Sox's scheme that was the subject of the Yankees' complaint.

Based on the foregoing, the Yankees are hereby fined $100,000. Please send a check in that amount, made payable to Major League Baseball Charities, to my attention. The money will be used for Hurricane Irma relief.
This post was edited on 4/27/22 at 10:33 am
Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 1:17 pm to
Finally. Seems like it’s taken forever for this letter to be released.

It must be pretty damning if they’ve gone though all this trouble to keep it sealed. Hopefully it isn’t underwhelming after all this hype.
This post was edited on 4/21/22 at 1:20 pm
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 1:18 pm to
I don't understand what the big deal is. Of course you're going to try to steal signs. Who wouldn't?
This post was edited on 4/21/22 at 1:18 pm
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 1:19 pm to
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Why go through all this trouble if it’s not very damaging?
agreed. There are some dirty organizations in baseball between the astros, yankees, and red sox
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 1:21 pm to
Why is sign stealing such a taboo. It's literally been happening over a hundred years.
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 1:24 pm to
It's as American as Apple Pie

Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 1:24 pm to
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I don't understand what the big deal is. Of course you're going to try to steal signs. Who wouldn't?


Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 1:32 pm to
Just release it, Jesus Christ
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 1:35 pm to
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Why is sign stealing such a taboo.


Its not

The problem is the media which acts like the astros are the only team that cheated
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 1:40 pm to
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Why is sign stealing such a taboo. It's literally been happening over a hundred years.


I honestly don't get it either. I think if you can steal them then cool, frick the other team.

I don't really get 90% of baseball rules though.
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
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Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 1:41 pm to
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Why is sign stealing such a taboo. It's literally been happening over a hundred years.



Because baseball is stupid. It is an unwritten rule that you can't get caught cheating or you'll be banned for life.
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 1:43 pm to
Word on the street is that there are several pictures of jeter on Epstein’s island
Posted by roguetiger15
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 1:50 pm to
i wonder if mlb is complicit within this letter.
Posted by High C
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 1:52 pm to
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There are some dirty organizations in baseball between the astros, yankees, and red sox


Troll harder
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94370 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 1:55 pm to
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agreed. There are some dirty organizations in baseball between the astros, yankees, and red sox


Don't forget the Dodgers who've been credibly accused on more than one occasion


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But, it seems, Dodgers hitters swung too big or too accurately or with too much confidence, according to a story in the New York Post, which first reported the anonymous hunches of “a couple Mets,” then followed with bench coach Jim Riggleman’s belief the Dodgers had “a system” that gathers “signs and stuff.” Questioned Thursday about that, Mets manager Mickey Callaway said, “We were a little perplexed at some of the pitches they hit,” which generally is baseball code for “check the speaker tower for cameras.”


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When asked for his opinion about the Astros’ sign-stealing scandal, Kratz said, “I can tell you that a team that has been to the World Series often recently, we caught them doing something almost similar.”

Since the Dodgers are the only team to have been to the World Series multiple times in recent years (besides the Astros), it seems Kratz is implying the Dodgers took part in some kind of sign-stealing during the 2018 season.




I believe survivors.
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 1:56 pm to
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Why is sign stealing such a taboo. It's literally been happening over a hundred years.


Players and Coaches on the field trying to steal signs has been going on forever and is legal. But using "mechanical means" (telescope, binoculars, cameras) to steal signs has been illegal since 1961. The new PitchCom device will end visual sign stealing but I'm sure the Astros are working on hacking that system.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 1:57 pm to
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I believe survivors.
smh
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22369 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 1:58 pm to
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Its not The problem is the media which acts like the astros are the only team that cheated


Kind of reminiscent of the Saints Bountygate situation though that wasn’t really “cheating” but you get the point. Every team did was the Saints allegedly did.
This post was edited on 4/21/22 at 1:59 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26068 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 1:59 pm to
Why does anyone care about this?
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112278 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 2:00 pm to
Bounty gate wasnt even related to a competitive issue so that’s on its own level of stupidity I think

Baseball has always had these stupid double standards. Generations of baseball players were hopped up on meth and coke mixed in with their pregame coffee but we need to wag the finger at those bad steroid users ruining the games integrity
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