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re: Not sure I’ve seen an NFL QB go from really good to washed as quickly as Russell Wilson.
Posted on 10/10/25 at 7:34 am to Buckeye Fan 19
Posted on 10/10/25 at 7:34 am to Buckeye Fan 19
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Peyton Manning.
I mean a degenerative neck will kinda do that to anything that requires the upper extremities
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Posted on 10/10/25 at 7:56 am to Strannix
quote:Who threw the pass that cost them a Superbowl.
This should surprise no one, if anything he held Seattle back.
Posted on 10/10/25 at 7:59 am to Morpheus
Guess nobody remembers Jamarcus Russell.....................
Posted on 10/10/25 at 7:59 am to Crow Pie
Who called that dumb play?
Posted on 10/10/25 at 8:03 am to Morpheus
You're just getting old yourself. I'm 66 years old, and I've seen it happen to many great athletes. Guys last much longer in today's world that they did back in the 60's, 70's and 80's. Back then, a torn ACL could do this to an NBA athlete like Calvin Natt. Technology and medical knowledge have made athletes, and regular folks, able to continue to be great long after injuries that used to end careers.
This post was edited on 10/10/25 at 8:04 am
Posted on 10/10/25 at 8:40 am to GarmischTiger
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Far more witty and clever in your head.
I wasn’t being witty at all. My comment was serious. He was league MVP in 2013 (and also first-team All-Pro in 2012).
Just two seasons later in 2015, he was so bad he was benched for Osweiler (before being reinstated), finished with 9 TDs and 17 INTs and finished 28th in QBR. They did win the Super Bowl thanks to the defense, but Trent Dilfer’s playoff and Super Bowl stat lines in 2000 were better than Peyton’s in 2015.
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I mean a degenerative neck will kinda do that to anything that requires the upper extremities
The neck injury was 2011. I’m sure it ultimately contributed to the downfall, but he still played at an extremely high level for two seasons after the surgery.
Does this board not remember this at all, or is it just a bunch of 16-year-olds posting here?
This post was edited on 10/10/25 at 8:44 am
Posted on 10/10/25 at 8:40 am to 1BamaRTR
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The Seahawks routinely had a bottom 3 OL too.
This is a myth. Half of the sacks they gave up were from Russell holding the ball 5 plus seconds.
Posted on 10/10/25 at 8:47 am to Morpheus
Exact reason why cam newton faded away post age 30 … his game was built on athleticism not quarterbacking
Posted on 10/10/25 at 9:10 am to 3PieceSpicy
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Patrick Mahomes tailspin the last 3 years has been insane. He went from Goat contender to 19th best QB in the league overnight.
He still is a GOAT contender. He, and Andy Reid, had to totally redesign their offense to this quick-passing west coast type of offense once Tyreek left and father time caught up to Kelce. I think they've done a hell of a job with that, all things considered. It's obviously not as fun to watch, but it's still pretty damn effective. With Worthy on the team now, and Rice coming back, I think you'll start to see their offense begin to open up again.
Posted on 10/10/25 at 9:35 am to 3PieceSpicy
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Patrick Mahomes tailspin the last 3 years has been insane. He went from Goat contender to 19th best QB in the league overnight.
That’s why he’s not a GOAT. GOAT’s like Brady and Brees, made everyone else around them good. Didn’t matter who they had as receivers.
Posted on 10/10/25 at 10:18 am to Morpheus
Colin Kaepernick said hold my beer. Starting QB in the Superbowl to washed up a couple years.
Posted on 10/10/25 at 7:25 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
quote:I see now that it was. I beg you forgive my snark.
My comment was serious.
quote:It seems like it at times - especially when threads get taken over by endless player name replies.
is it just a bunch of 16-year-olds posting here?
You made a solid post. I'm sorry I sh*t on it.
(Now wait for the replies.)
Posted on 10/10/25 at 7:43 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
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Peyton Manning.
ETA: Apparently very few of you remember how amazing he was in 2012 and 2013 (league MVP) to benched for Brock Osweiler in 2015.
Payton was amazing. Yes, we remember him battling back from a broken neck, risking debilitating injury at age 36, winning that MVP and leading the Broncos to that an eventual SB. But by 2015 he was done and 39 years old.
PM had the heart of a champion. Much respect from all.
Russell Wilson started off like fire, hungry and fearless. A leader.
But became a prima donna while seemingly tossing in the towel after his couple of big payday. Players and fans noticed he seemed to change.he became sloppy, also shying away from getting hit or hurting his pretty face. It appeared he's lost the respect of his teammates for a while now.
Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:10 am to UltimateHog
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UltimateHog
Lmao some of yall are ridiculous.
4 seasons of 4,000+ yards another at 3,983. 5 seasons of at least 30 TD passes while also averaging another 5 rushing and 500 rushing a year. 7
+1 he was really good for several years. People just want to be negative about everything
Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:36 am to UltimateHog
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4 seasons of 4,000+ yards another at 3,983. 5 seasons of at least 30 TD passes while also averaging another 5 rushing and 500 rushing a year. 7 seasons with an over 100 rating. He was nasty as hell.
Somebody asked Grok “help me feel smart and win an argument on a message board”
Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:54 am to Morpheus
Cam Newton
Posted on 10/11/25 at 8:25 am to sta4ever
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That’s why he’s not a GOAT. GOAT’s like Brady and Brees, made everyone else around them good. Didn’t matter who they had as receivers.
Mahomes dragged them to the super bowl last year and they went 15-2
"making everyone else around them good" isn't the standard you want to use to criticize Mahomes
Posted on 10/11/25 at 10:35 am to SlowFlowPro
Donovan McNabb
Posted on 10/11/25 at 10:39 am to Buckeye Fan 19
Manning was a physical thing, Wilson and Geno Smith just fell off a cliff.
Pete Carroll saw Wilson decline, but missed on Smith.
Pete Carroll saw Wilson decline, but missed on Smith.
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