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Posted on 12/17/17 at 8:24 pm to reo45
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The fact the ground makes it an incomplete catch is what is so laughable. Ground can't cause a fumble but it can cause an incomplete catch lol.
He caught the ball in the process of falling to the ground.
He didn't maintain control.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 8:25 pm to magildachunks
I don’t care for either team so I say this without a concern over who won...watching that guy catch it, take a knee to the ground, then lunge over goal line, I don’t care if he dropped it after or not. That should be a TD. If there are rules that say it’s not, then the NFL is worse than I previously thought.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 8:27 pm to jwall3
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That should be a TD. If there are rules that say it’s not, then the NFL is worse than I previously thought.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 8:28 pm to Bunk Moreland
quote:the ball went from being between both hands to his left hand twisting to where the back of his left hand was on the football. He didn't maintain control. Due to his left hand twisting the ball was no longer under his complete control.
As I've said in other threads, a ball is almost always spinning a little in a guy's hand when you look at it in slow motion, so every catch is in doubt
Posted on 12/17/17 at 8:28 pm to Jcorye1
I posted this gif in the other thread about it.
I cannot tell the ball hit the ground or if he could have had his right arm under the ball.
I cannot tell the ball hit the ground or if he could have had his right arm under the ball.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 8:29 pm to Bham Bammer
quote:No
The ball obviously is on the ground considering
It damn sure probably did hit the ground.
But there isn't 100% proof.
This post was edited on 12/17/17 at 8:34 pm
Posted on 12/17/17 at 8:32 pm to East Coast Band
It's clear the ball moves from his own hand not the ground.. there's no indisputable evidence the ball was on the ground without his hand under it .. if it would've been called incomplete I'd say the same thing regarding overturning it to a catch..
Posted on 12/17/17 at 8:54 pm to Jcorye1
One of the first thing he says in the video is, "Roethlisberger completes a pass."
Catch it is!
Catch it is!
Posted on 12/17/17 at 8:55 pm to Jcorye1
Holy shite. If that isn't a TD, I don't know what football is anymore.
frick that bullshite call if that's no TD.
frick that bullshite call if that's no TD.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 8:59 pm to Jcorye1
Maybe
This post was edited on 12/19/17 at 8:44 pm
Posted on 12/17/17 at 9:04 pm to jwall3
the narrator explains it
he said the guy was already falling to the ground (he had left the ground and was in the air) before the ball was in his hands
the rules state the catch has to "survive the ground" in that instance
it did not; he lost control as he hit the ground.
it was the right call by the rule
he said the guy was already falling to the ground (he had left the ground and was in the air) before the ball was in his hands
the rules state the catch has to "survive the ground" in that instance
it did not; he lost control as he hit the ground.
it was the right call by the rule
This post was edited on 12/17/17 at 9:05 pm
Posted on 12/17/17 at 9:06 pm to reo45
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My problem is not that it is the Patriots, but how insane the rule is.
The rule is dumb but it's a rule. By rule, that is an incomplete pass. You must maintain possession all the way through as you make contact with the ground. Had he caught that ball on a fade route into the end zone and lost control of it as he went to the ground there would be no questioning the refs. But because he stretched the ball across the plane, everyone is pissed off.
This post was edited on 12/17/17 at 9:07 pm
Posted on 12/17/17 at 9:07 pm to Tiguar
Why are people coming in here posting the rule?
We know the rule. We don’t like the rule.
We know the rule. We don’t like the rule.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 9:08 pm to Jcorye1
I didn’t realize this at first, but the guy narrating the video literally says “Roethlisberger completes a pass to James” to start the explanation.
NFL
NFL
Posted on 12/17/17 at 9:10 pm to KillerNut9
I posted that in my post in this thread I guess people thought I made it up like they made up an incomplete pass
Posted on 12/17/17 at 9:12 pm to East Coast Band
I thought his left hand just came off the ball but I was wrong. He actually purposefully spins it upwards against his right hand with his left hand to keep it from touching the ground.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 9:17 pm to Undertow
The fact that you even question what is happening means it shouldn't be overturned
Posted on 12/17/17 at 9:19 pm to East Coast Band
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I posted this gif in the other thread about it. I cannot tell the ball hit the ground or if he could have had his right arm under the ball.
Well then you are beyond debating. The tip of the ball is clearly touching the ground.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 9:20 pm to Jcorye1
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NFL Football Ops twitter has released a video of the play
Which proves absolutely nothing.
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