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NCAA proposing new college athletics subdivision rooted in direct athlete compensation
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:10 am
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:10 am
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In a letter sent to Division I members, and obtained by Yahoo Sports, Baker outlines a groundbreaking and radical change to the NCAA Division I athletics model, describing it as a “new forward-looking framework.”
According to Baker’s proposal, schools that choose to be part of the new subdivision — they can opt in or out — are required to meet a strict minimum standard rooted in athlete investment.
Members of the new subdivision will be permitted to strike name, image and likeness (NIL) deals with their own athletes — a significant move away from the current NIL structure.
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Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:11 am to NorthshoreTiger76
woh
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:12 am to NorthshoreTiger76
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In a letter sent to Division I members, and obtained by Yahoo Sports, Baker outlines a groundbreaking and radical change to the NCAA Division I athletics model, describing it as a “new forward-looking framework.” According to Baker’s proposal, schools that choose to be part of the new subdivision — they can opt in or out — are required to meet a strict minimum standard rooted in athlete investment.
Should be a football only thing
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:13 am to NorthshoreTiger76
Holy shite
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:14 am to Fun Bunch
It was fun while it lasted
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:14 am to NorthshoreTiger76
This sounds like a logistical nightmare. You bring all sorts of Title IX issues into play on the NIL side here now that didn't exist before. Also, who and how do you decide which female athletes get paid and which don't?
Going to be some lawyers buying new boats
Going to be some lawyers buying new boats
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:14 am to NorthshoreTiger76
So can we just hire Will Wade back already? 
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:22 am to usc6158
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This sounds like a logistical nightmare. You bring all sorts of Title IX issues into play on the NIL side here now that didn't exist before. Also, who and how do you decide which female athletes get paid and which don't?
Agreed.
That’s why I think this becomes a football only thing. Eventually the power conferences will separate from the NCAA and form their own football league. The players will effectively become “employees” so they can collectively bargain with the new league.
The mindset that college football is a “scholastic extracurricular” should have been extinguished LONG ago once the conferences started signing multi-million dollar media rights deals (just like professional leagues). It’s now an entertainment business somewhat affiliated with schools. That should be the mindset. It will help those who long for college football of 40-50 years ago understand what is going on
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:24 am to LNCHBOX
LSU will be completely screwed in this model.
They already are to a certain degree. There needs to be restrictions on this and they are going the other way.
Schools with massive donors and trusts will start to completely dominate within 5 years.
The "reputation" schools like LSU will fade.
They will not be able to compete with the Texas and Michigans etc's of the world.
They already are to a certain degree. There needs to be restrictions on this and they are going the other way.
Schools with massive donors and trusts will start to completely dominate within 5 years.
The "reputation" schools like LSU will fade.
They will not be able to compete with the Texas and Michigans etc's of the world.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:26 am to Fun Bunch
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LSU will be completely screwed in this model.
Not really. Jayden just made himself 10s of millions of dollars more than any NIL deal would have paid by coming here and balling out.
Players will take notice of that.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:27 am to usc6158
Electing in means Title IX will not apply
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:29 am to Jack Daniel
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Electing in means Title IX will not apply
It 100% applies to any salaries paid by the school and now potentially NIL that the school does directly. It's federal law.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:29 am to NorthshoreTiger76
You want to kill everything that makes college sports fun and unique?
Because this will kill everything that makes college sports fun and unique
Because this will kill everything that makes college sports fun and unique
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:30 am to LNCHBOX
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Not really. Jayden just made himself 10s of millions of dollars more than any NIL deal would have paid by coming here and balling out.
Players will take notice of that.
For awhile.
But that too soon will fade.
The vast majority of players will realize how much money they can make and it will just be open Free Agency. The best HS and Transfer players will take the most money, and LSU will not be able to compete across the board, from roster top to bottom.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:33 am to Fun Bunch
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LSU will be completely screwed in this model.
They already are to a certain degree. There needs to be restrictions on this and they are going the other way.
Schools with massive donors and trusts will start to completely dominate within 5 years.
The "reputation" schools like LSU will fade.
They will not be able to compete with the Texas and Michigans etc's of the world.
Only about 4-5 programs nationwide could sustain this. And some of those might not even want to. When the other schools figure it out and quit trying to compete on an uneven playing field, it will be the end of college sports.
Or better yet, maybe it will go back to unpaid college students that play sports, instead of paid athletes that play school.
This post was edited on 12/5/23 at 9:42 am
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:35 am to Fun Bunch
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For awhile.
But that too soon will fade.
You think it'll be the last time we get a transfer that come here and crushes it, making a bunch of money in the process?
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The vast majority of players will realize how much money they can make and it will just be open Free Agency. The best HS and Transfer players will take the most money, and LSU will not be able to compete across the board, from roster top to bottom.
We'll see. I'd bet LSU remains a power.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:37 am to NorthshoreTiger76
“Bro just pay the players, bro. Please, bro, we know they already live like kings on campus but they just need a little more money so they can buy McDonald’s bro.”
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:37 am to LNCHBOX
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You think it'll be the last time we get a transfer that come here and crushes it, making a bunch of money in the process?
No, definitely not.
I am simply talking from top of roster to bottom, LSU will not be able to compete under an unlimited free agency no salary cap model
Louisiana and LSU Alumni simply do not have the money other schools will have
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We'll see. I'd bet LSU remains a power.
It will depend on what you mean by Power. Reputation and lack of in state comp will keep them somewhat in the hunt in perpetuity, I agree. They just will not year in year out be on the level of other schools, eventually.
But LSU simply would not benefit from this model like other schools.
LSU Fans should be hoping for sane restrictions
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:39 am to Fun Bunch
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LSU will not be able to compete under an unlimited free agency no salary cap model
How many schools can and will make the choice to spend unlimited amounts of money? The answer is almost none at best.
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They just will not year in year out be on the level of other schools, eventually.
Again, who is going to be willing to spend unlimited amounts of money? These same arguments were made when NIL was instituted.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:40 am to NorthshoreTiger76
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According to Baker’s proposal, schools that choose to be part of the new subdivision — they can opt in or out — are required to meet a strict minimum standard rooted in athlete investment.
Members of the new subdivision will be permitted to strike name, image and likeness (NIL) deals with their own athletes — a significant move away from the current NIL structure.
At this point you take the top 50 or so teams... the big names, you create a league, you implement a standard pay model where everyone makes the same. Make the players sign exclusive contracts that keep them from getting money from other sources..
You pay all Freshman 50k a year, redshirt freshman and true sophmores 100k, redshirt sophomores, Juniors, and seniors 200k.
The money doesn't come from the school, it comes from the collective money coffers of the new league.
Players then choose where they want to go based on roster availability, play time, coaches, etc...
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