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Posted on 12/13/23 at 3:15 pm to BeYou
The ncaa has done this to themselves at this point. Their past, present and future weakness is going to end the organization
Posted on 12/13/23 at 3:20 pm to BeYou
People keep laughing at me for saying the teams will break away from the schools. If these items go through, a lot of fans will be done. Why even get to know or care about a player that can be gone every single year after a bidding war?
Posted on 12/13/23 at 3:25 pm to Diseasefreeforall
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Will this affect the playoff?
I hope not although the way CFB is trending I wouldn't be surrprised. There was a big time 4/5* recruit where I live who played on a shite team and was somehow, someway, able to transfer out after his team's regular season and join the top team in the region right before playoff time.
Since EVERYTHING is about money these days, I can see the morons in charge thinking "just think if all the top players on non-playoff teams could get picked up in free agency and join the playoff teams right before a title run! Think about the ratings!" I shudder to think.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 3:28 pm to BeYou
The NCAA is dumb. They need to put this on the schools, not the player.
Players have unlimited transfers. Schools can only accept players that have transferred once.
Either that, or make the Academic Progress metric have a transfer component that is egregious.
Players have unlimited transfers. Schools can only accept players that have transferred once.
Either that, or make the Academic Progress metric have a transfer component that is egregious.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 3:38 pm to Jcorye1
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If these items go through, a lot of fans will be done. Why even get to know or care about a player that can be gone every single year after a bidding war?
I've already basically stopped following recruiting. In the 00s even early 10s I was heavily invested in following recruiting in the offseason. Where is Terrelle Pryor going? Where is Lache Seastrunk going? LSU got Patrick Johnson (later Peterson)! Damn, Joe McKnight went to USC. I went on recruiting sites every day to follow who LSU was getting and who all the top recruits across the country were going to. It was fun times.
Nowadays I just don't see the point in getting too wrapped up in it. If you land a major recruit he could be gone the very next year. If you lose a big recruit he might transfer to you later. All I do now is see who's on the team when it gets close to August and see what people say about them, who's supposed to be good and what our weak positions are.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 3:43 pm to WaterLink
Short of congress stepping in, and I don't think college sports should be a focus of the federal government, I don't really see how the NCAA can mandate anything with the way some of these judges are going.
I mean, is someone going to take them to court over the rules of the game next?
Perhaps a non-compete clause when signing a yearly scholarship?
All I know is this shite is going to destroy the game.
I mean, is someone going to take them to court over the rules of the game next?
Perhaps a non-compete clause when signing a yearly scholarship?
All I know is this shite is going to destroy the game.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 3:56 pm to BeYou
I don't understand the end game with all of the realignment and rule changes. Is college football trying to NASCAR itself? The people in control of college football (TV execs) seem to think that their core fanbase will stick around no matter how much they change the game, just like the idiots who ran NASCAR did. Part of me thinks the realignment/NIL/portal stuff is thought up by TV execs as a way to create content during the offseason.
All of this shite is quickly making me, someone who used to watch college football from noon to midnight nearly every Saturday, lose interest in the sport very quickly, and I know I'm not alone. I hate what college football is becoming and there will be a day in the very near future where college football fans stop going out of their way to watch games.
All of this shite is quickly making me, someone who used to watch college football from noon to midnight nearly every Saturday, lose interest in the sport very quickly, and I know I'm not alone. I hate what college football is becoming and there will be a day in the very near future where college football fans stop going out of their way to watch games.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 4:09 pm to TC Kidd
I will point out that the Supreme Court ruling that opened the door to NIL was 9-0 and included all the Trump appointees. There is no great liberal conspiracy here.
This post was edited on 12/13/23 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 12/13/23 at 4:10 pm to WG_Dawg
Because it’s become a billion dollar business that involves intrastate commerce.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 4:15 pm to BuckyCheese
Congress will not step in. Except for Tuberville who is not quite objective on this, pretty much all the noise that has come out of Congress, bipartisanly, Democrats and Republicans, liberals and conservatives, has been on the side of the athletes. And the frustrating thing has been that the interests of the fans have not been considered at all, and IMO they won’t be.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 4:17 pm to ragincajun03
I hope athletic scholarships disappear all together at some point. Little Timmy needs to focus on math and science more then travel ball anyway
Posted on 12/13/23 at 4:27 pm to WG_Dawg
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I truly cannot wrap my head around why the government/courts think they have any business whatsoever in the governance of amateur student athletics
They tend to intervene in things they generally have no business in when the people meant to govern are grossly incompetent.
Abusive / Neglectful parents? Government eventually has no choice but to intervene.
Run your workplace like a slave owner? Eventually the government has to intervene.
Royally mismanage governing a sport for your entire existence and eventually when enough people complain enough the government is going to intervene.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 4:27 pm to InkStainedWretch
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Democrats and Republicans, liberals and conservatives, has been on the side of the athletes.
Yeah this lawsuit was filed by the attorneys general of 7 states with 5 Dems and 2 Republicans.
Seems like the big problem the NCAA has is that (no surprise) their rulings on transfer waivers have been seemingly arbitrary in some cases. I think that may be why the judge issued the TRO.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 4:30 pm to rolltide32
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Run your workplace like a slave owner? Eventually the government has to intervene.
Jesus Christ.
So you think giving a kid a scholarship, meal plan, educational support, ect ect is equivalent to forcing someone to work a field under penalty of death? Absolutely insane.
This post was edited on 12/13/23 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 12/13/23 at 4:39 pm to Civildawg
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It was nice knowing you college sports
I don’t understand how the courts come to these decisions? Schools voluntarily join the NCAA and it governs the rules for sports.
At this point the ncaa needs to copy the NFL and make players sign a contract when they get a scholarship that commits them to a certain number of years at that school before transfer eligibility and outlines all NIL deals and rules that can lead to fines if broken. Players can negotiate the terms before signing day, make the contract terms part of recruitment. Otherwise players are about to go free reign and ruin the sport something has to be done to stop the madness
Posted on 12/13/23 at 4:45 pm to Scruffy
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You have no desire to be a real student athlete for a university? Great. Head straight to the draft or minor leagues instead. No academic scholarships. No ACT “testing sites” to help you score what you need to be eligible and enrolled at a school.This is where it needs to end up.
Yup. Major athletes to minor leagues. Colleges can have athletics but make it where the students who want to play go to open tryouts for the team. Do it for fun, it doesn’t yield scholarships and no recruiting allowed. Basically like high school
Posted on 12/13/23 at 4:45 pm to Jcorye1
That is no longer enough in the 21st century given how much money is involved now. That model is broken forevermore and is not going to remain no matter how much fans who think their interests should be predominant because they pay the bills … I am not criticizing that attitude or saying it’s wrong or out of line, mind you, just pointing out its existence … cling to it.
The only question is the degree and whether there will be some type of controls in place or if it will be the Wild West.
The only question is the degree and whether there will be some type of controls in place or if it will be the Wild West.
This post was edited on 12/13/23 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 12/13/23 at 4:47 pm to Diseasefreeforall
The NCAA is paying for its past idiocy in not letting the players have ANYTHING.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 5:16 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
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My goodness. Courts don't belong in sports for non criminal matters.
Well, it's a civil case so criminal matters aren't really a requirement in a civilcase .
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