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re: My nostalgia for Larry Bird- Magic Johnson era NBA basketball has reached absurd levels

Posted on 8/17/24 at 11:10 am to
Posted by MusclesofBrussels
Member since Dec 2015
4998 posts
Posted on 8/17/24 at 11:10 am to
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Now Embiid is by far the best low post scorer in the NBA now and since that era


Uhhhh, not sure how you can post that when this chubby Serb exists...



Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70811 posts
Posted on 8/17/24 at 3:36 pm to
Sure, you took it to mean emotion and a feelings preference, what I actually meant is stats and highlights. You have a misunderstanding of what stats are, they only tell you what happened they don’t tell you why and how something happened. Thats the difference I’m referring to, you judge the game by its surface. A perfect example is the 2014 finals where if you look at Lebrons numbers you’d think he dominated but if you watch the games you saw him get dominated.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70811 posts
Posted on 8/17/24 at 3:37 pm to
No I think Joker is a better player but he’s most effective at the high post facing up. I think Embiid is a better low post, back to the basket scorer specifically.
Posted by MusclesofBrussels
Member since Dec 2015
4998 posts
Posted on 8/17/24 at 3:50 pm to
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I think Embiid is a better low post, back to the basket scorer specifically.


Well that's a terrible take, but not surprising given that you've littered this thread with pages of dimwitted idiocy.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70811 posts
Posted on 8/17/24 at 4:25 pm to
Like claiming Joker is a low block player when he isn’t?
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
33819 posts
Posted on 8/17/24 at 6:34 pm to
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Rockets
Olajuwon would be even better in today's game.Probably the most athletic big man ever. Would probably be the best defender in the league.



Imagine what he could do wit no one hanging on to him inside. He averaged 32.8 points a game in the Finals with Shaq holding on to him every time he drove.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91563 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 1:00 am to
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Sure, you took it to mean emotion and a feelings preference
Correct
quote:

what I actually meant is stats and highlights. You have a misunderstanding of what stats are, they only tell you what happened they don’t tell you why and how something happened
Sure

And me and my side try our hardest to get y’all to sit down with us and discuss the whys and how’s.

Y’all don’t respond well to it. Most likely because y’all are captivated by your emotions and feelings when it comes to the topic.
quote:

Thats the difference I’m referring to, you judge the game by its surface.
Dude people read the board. I’m annoying af when it comes to this topic but nobody would agree with you that I dont attempt to get deep with it. You acting like we’re retards obsessed with counting stats is ridiculous.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/18/24 at 1:08 am to
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A perfect example is the 2014 finals where if you look at Lebrons numbers you’d think he dominated but if you watch the games you saw him get dominated.
1. How did he get dominated.

2. Who the frick uses 2014 Lebron finals stats to debate Lebron’s greatness?
Posted by Dairy Sanders
Member since Apr 2022
2963 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 9:11 am to
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And me and my side try our hardest to get y’all to sit down with us and discuss the whys and how’s.


Lol bullshite. I directly asked SlowCuckPro to give me a detailed explanation of today’s offensive schemes and all that soyboy said was “use passing to create space for shooters”. It’s clear your side doesn’t know what it’s talking about because most of y’all never even played the sport in any organized fashioned and learned day one basketball fundamentals much less more advanced concepts. Same with football too.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477231 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 9:22 am to
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I mean just look at the FT%.

That has nothing to do with system, pace, refs, etc.

Of the top 10 years of FT%, 7 came since 2015. The outliers are 09, 74, and 89

Since the 70s, the 10 worst years of FT% (from worst to least worst):

99, 94, 95, 98, 97, 83, 96, 82, 01, and 00


Since nobody replied, we'll follow up with eFG%

Here is the list, in order, of the top-10 eFG% years of all time:

1. 24
2. 23
3. 21
4. 22
5. 20
6. 19
7. 18
8. 17
9. 16
10. 14

Here is a list, in order, of the worst eFG% teams after the 70s (from worst to least worst)

1. 99
2. 04
3. 01
4. 03
5. 02
6. 98
7. 00
8. 05
9. 94
10. 80

followed up immediately by: 91, 92, 12, 83, 87, 81, 88, 89, 90, 06

Are we detecting a pattern yet?


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477231 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 9:27 am to
How about TS%?

Here is the list, in order, of the top-10 eFG% years of all time:

23
24
21
22
20
19
18
17
09
10

Here is a list, in order, of the worst eFG% teams after the 70s (from worst to least worst)

99
04
01
03
02
00
98
12
94
05

This is where you see the progeny of 90s thug/coward ball almost killing the NBA, post-Jordan.
Posted by Dairy Sanders
Member since Apr 2022
2963 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 11:16 am to
Because defense is absolute shite. The answer was right in front of your face and even the Commissioner said it and you are still too hardheaded to accept it.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70811 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 11:21 am to
Because it’s not about objectively viewing the game it’s about him validating what he likes because it’s all he’s experienced. It would be like you or me constantly attacking Bill Russell or Wilt Chamberlin just because we didn’t witness them in real time. It’s absurd.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70811 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 11:32 am to
My bad, I forgot you have a sexual obsession with Lebron. Let’s use another example so you don’t melt. Shaq in the 1995 NBA finals put up great numbers but everyone who saw the games and even Shaq himself will tell you he got cooked. You do know the point of the game is to win right? I know people like you prioritize winning when it suits you then dismiss it when it doesn’t.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216476 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 11:39 am to
ZING!!!!!!!
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70811 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 12:00 pm to
The top 10 FG% seasons in order are

1984
1985
1982
1986
1981
1983
1979
1980
1988
1987

Here’s the link with actual stats

LINK


Some might find it odd that you’d choose a deliberately biased statistics to compare across eras so I figured I’d use a universal one instead.
This post was edited on 8/18/24 at 12:08 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477231 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 1:37 pm to
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Because defense is absolute shite.


How does this impact FT%?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477231 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

it’s about him validating what he likes because it’s all he’s experienced.

How old do you think I am?

I was in undergrad when the NBA almost died. I wasn't in elementary school.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477231 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

The top 10 FG% seasons in order are




Also, I see 0 teams from the 90s on there. You may want to check where they land on your FG% gotcha attempt

quote:

Some might find it odd that you’d choose a deliberately biased statistics


FT%, eFG%,and TS% are not "deliberately biased statistics"
This post was edited on 8/18/24 at 1:40 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290904 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 1:42 pm to
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You didn’t see Vince Carter doing that in the NBA even though


Vince Carter is...

*squints*


9th all time in 3 PT FG made in NBA history
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