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re: My nostalgia for Larry Bird- Magic Johnson era NBA basketball has reached absurd levels
Posted on 8/16/24 at 10:20 pm to WestCoastAg
Posted on 8/16/24 at 10:20 pm to WestCoastAg
Melt
Posted on 8/16/24 at 10:22 pm to slackster
Irrelevant but ok, show this “data”
This post was edited on 8/16/24 at 10:28 pm
Posted on 8/16/24 at 10:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:smh
I used to ignorantly defend it
As a sport addicted kid I found 90s NBA basketball legitimately unwatchable.
Posted on 8/16/24 at 10:32 pm to Madking
quote:Jesus Christ, it’s the exact opposite.
An analogy would be the people you’re talking about are interested in the look and color of a car while people from our generation prefer to know what’s under the hood and how it works.
If you pick 1000 MJ fans from a sample reflective of typical basketball fans, and do the same for Lebron, I’d bet my fricking life the MJ fans debated using far less facts/data.
You mfers can’t even have a conversation about illegal defense.
Posted on 8/16/24 at 10:35 pm to ReauxlTide222
None of what you said applies to anything I’ve posted and your last statement is flat out false.
Posted on 8/16/24 at 10:38 pm to Madking
quote:
None of what you said applies to anything I’ve posted
quote:What is this?
An analogy would be the people you’re talking about are interested in the look and color of a car while people from our generation prefer to know what’s under the hood and how it works.
Posted on 8/16/24 at 10:39 pm to ReauxlTide222
What does that have to do with your made up MJ vs Lebron fan scenario? Here’s a hint, nothing
Posted on 8/16/24 at 10:41 pm to ReauxlTide222
I get it now, you think stats represent the nuts and bolts of basketball lol. So absurd I didn’t even consider you’d be that ignorant.
Posted on 8/16/24 at 10:47 pm to Madking
quote:You said people in this era basically debate on feelings and folks who gravitate towards the 80s/90s style like to really get into the details of the eras.
What does that have to do with your made up MJ vs Lebron fan scenario? Here’s a hint, nothing
That’s insane. Everyone here sees these debates. The old heads debate on pure feelings and nostalgia.
Posted on 8/16/24 at 10:49 pm to ReauxlTide222
Not what I said. Maybe you just don’t understand the analogy which would make a lot of sense.
This post was edited on 8/16/24 at 10:52 pm
Posted on 8/16/24 at 11:10 pm to Madking
quote:There isn't a single 7 footer outside of Shaq that played from Ewing to Duncan that has more pure talent than Embiid. Embiid being a big time foul baiter and injury prone has really tricked people into thinking he's not good. He is an all time talent.
If those great centers from Ewing to Duncan’s era played today they’d be unstoppable. Think about the numbers Embiid puts up, all of those players were better than him.
I should've prefaced - all time *offensive* talent. He's still a 3 time all defense player. But we're talking about a borderline 50/40/90 7 footer who's averaging 5+ assists a game while making all defense teams.
I'll even concede Malone, even though he got to play in an error where he essentially couldn't be double teamed and Embiid is doubled more than a third of the time he touches the ball.
This post was edited on 8/16/24 at 11:20 pm
Posted on 8/16/24 at 11:19 pm to PP7 for heisman
I’ve been an Embiid fan since I first saw him at Kansas but he’s not as good as those guys. Ewing, Hakeem, Shaq and Robinson were all better athletes, all of them were more physical, all of them were better defensively and all of them save Robinson had better footwork and feel in the post. Now Embiid is by far the best low post scorer in the NBA now and since that era but he isn’t as good as those guys.
Posted on 8/16/24 at 11:23 pm to Madking
quote:Will concede this.
Ewing, Hakeem, Shaq and Robinson were all better athletes, all of them were more physical
quote:I think Embiid is a lot better defensively than he's given credit for.
all of them were better defensively and all of them save Robinson had better footwork and feel in the post
Embiid's ability to step outside is what gives him the offensive edge over all of them, sans prime Shaq. That and he's an 83% FT shooter on 10 a night.
Posted on 8/16/24 at 11:30 pm to PP7 for heisman
Ewing was a dead eye from 17-21 feet, Hakeem was also an outstanding shooter, Duncan could shoot and Robinson hit that 15-18 foot elbow jumper regularly.
This post was edited on 8/16/24 at 11:34 pm
Posted on 8/17/24 at 7:14 am to Madking
quote:
Ewing, Hakeem, Shaq and Robinson were all better athletes, all of them were more physical, all of them were better defensively and all of them save Robinson had better footwork and feel in the post
Pre-illness Mourning was also a strong post scorer with some muscle and high end defense
Posted on 8/17/24 at 7:59 am to Madking
Posted on 8/17/24 at 8:05 am to Madking
quote:That would make much more sense.
Not what I said. Maybe you just don’t understand the analogy which would make a lot of sense.
Can you explain it to me, please?
Posted on 8/17/24 at 9:40 am to slackster
quote:
cool anecdotes. Thankfully we have a whole lot of data that says modern shooters are basically better than ever.
Except the data does not say that, but don’t let facts get in the way of your opinion.
Posted on 8/17/24 at 10:26 am to Dairy Sanders
quote:
Except the data does not say that, but don’t let facts get in the way of your opinion.
Posted on 8/17/24 at 10:52 am to slackster
I mean just look at the FT%.
That has nothing to do with system, pace, refs, etc.
Of the top 10 years of FT%, 7 came since 2015. The outliers are 09, 74, and 89
Since the 70s, the 10 worst years of FT% (from worst to least worst):
99, 94, 95, 98, 97, 83, 96, 82, 01, and 00

That has nothing to do with system, pace, refs, etc.
Of the top 10 years of FT%, 7 came since 2015. The outliers are 09, 74, and 89
Since the 70s, the 10 worst years of FT% (from worst to least worst):
99, 94, 95, 98, 97, 83, 96, 82, 01, and 00
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