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re: My nostalgia for Larry Bird- Magic Johnson era NBA basketball has reached absurd levels
Posted on 8/18/24 at 1:46 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 8/18/24 at 1:46 pm to Lester Earl
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Posted on 8/18/24 at 1:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
You continue with this fantasy of the NBA almost dying when it’s already been shown that ratings from that era were double to nearly triple what they are now. Another one of your ignorant and false narratives. As far as the bias you refuse to see, comparing a percentage that accounts for an extra point that didn’t exist in past eras should be obvious enough but of course this has to be spelled out for you since you’re either so bias you can’t see it or so biased you’re being dishonest about it. Did TS% take into account the extra points from and 1s, no it just accounts for 3s which adds another aspect of bias to it.
Posted on 8/18/24 at 1:50 pm to Lester Earl
Misleading as always. He isn’t top 50 in 3s made or attempted per game. You’re dishonestly using career volume to mask commonality, besides it has nothing to do with what I said anyway. I was talking about him doing the same things Curry does nearly 20 years before Curry made it popular. Again you never saw Carter take the shots Curry takes despite him being capable of it.
Posted on 8/18/24 at 1:56 pm to Madking
dishonest deflections as usual
Posted on 8/18/24 at 1:59 pm to Madking
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As far as the bias you refuse to see, comparing a percentage that accounts for an extra point that didn’t exist in past eras
Can you read? Clearly you cannot, or you don't know when the NBA added the 3 point line. Which is it?
As a hint, I'll quote from my post:
quote:
Here is a list, in order, of the worst eFG% teams after the 70s (from worst to least worst)
And I had a typo copying the question directly, but the same temporal parameters existed with TS%.
Also, how does this affect FT%?
Posted on 8/18/24 at 1:59 pm to Lester Earl
Lying as usual. Here’s your argument, “Hakeem Olajuwon made more career 3s than Pistol Pete so he’s a better 3pt shooter”
Don’t waste my or your time, you can’t win this.
Don’t waste my or your time, you can’t win this.
Posted on 8/18/24 at 2:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
Yes I know when it was added. Deflecting doesn’t change the fact.
Posted on 8/18/24 at 2:01 pm to Madking
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I was talking about him doing the same things Curry does nearly 20 years before Curry made it popular.
Shooting in practice means literally nothing.
You clearly missed the famous Arenas v. Stevenson post-practice 3 point bet
Posted on 8/18/24 at 2:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
Your straw man also means nothing
Posted on 8/18/24 at 2:02 pm to Madking
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Yes I know when it was added. Deflecting doesn’t change the fact.
Doesn't change this fact?
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As far as the bias you refuse to see, comparing a percentage that accounts for an extra point that didn’t exist in past eras
You realized I only include "past eras' with the 3 point shot, right?
Given that, explain the bias, as you described it. I'm comparing a percentage that accounts for an extra point that existed in all eras examined.
Posted on 8/18/24 at 2:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
You’re still giving absolute weight to a biased statistic.
Posted on 8/18/24 at 2:05 pm to Madking
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You’re still giving absolute weight to a biased statistic.
How is it biased?
You already tried to explain this once and failed. I'll let you try again.
Posted on 8/18/24 at 2:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
Because it adds in an extra point for one situation but not the other when the result is the same. Not just for past eras but for present, a stat that doesn’t properly represent what it’s intended to isn’t a reliable stat.
Posted on 8/18/24 at 2:09 pm to Madking
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Because it adds in an extra point for one situation but not the other when the result is the same.
You mean like the NBA since 1979?
Posted on 8/18/24 at 2:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
What do you mean?
Posted on 8/18/24 at 2:15 pm to Madking
In the NBA since 1979, there is a shot that adds an extra point that for once situation but not the others, when the result is the same.
You're saying the stat is biased because it reflects the reality of the NBA since 1979, when my analysis was the reality of the NBA since 1980.
You're arguing the 3 point shot is unfair and creates a bias, and you're correct. But the 3 point shot exists and the intelligent strategy is to exploit this, as it's one of the most efficient shots (along with shots at the rim and FTs).
Teams are smarter now. That's the point.
You're saying the stat is biased because it reflects the reality of the NBA since 1979, when my analysis was the reality of the NBA since 1980.
You're arguing the 3 point shot is unfair and creates a bias, and you're correct. But the 3 point shot exists and the intelligent strategy is to exploit this, as it's one of the most efficient shots (along with shots at the rim and FTs).
Teams are smarter now. That's the point.
Posted on 8/18/24 at 2:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
That isn’t my argument, I’m a big fan of the 3 and always have been. My argument is a statistic should 100% represent what it claims to and TS doesn’t.
Posted on 8/18/24 at 2:21 pm to Madking
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My argument is a statistic should 100% represent what it claims to and TS doesn’t.
I posted 3 stats
FT%
eFG%
TS%
FT% is a sort of control, as it's system, rule, scheme, ref, etc. independent.
If players aren't more skilled today, why are they so much better at FTs?
On the flip side, if the 90s were so great, why were they so terrible at FTs? Where was their basic shooting skill?
Posted on 8/18/24 at 2:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
More freedom of movement and less contention leads to more offensive output. This isn’t hard unless you refuse to acknowledge reality.
This post was edited on 8/18/24 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 8/18/24 at 3:00 pm to Madking
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More freedom of movement and less contention leads to more offensive output. This isn’t hard unless you refuse to acknowledge reality.
How does this affect FT%?
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