re: MLB Season is Probably Dead. More On PG 5

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Player's Union is way too strong. Needs some losses to tame that beast.
I hope it doesn't kill the sport.

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It very well could this time. I'm 47 and a huge MLB fan. It is easily my second favorite sport behind college football. I live in the middle of nowhere Mississippi about 4.5 hours from Atlanta and 6.5 hours from Dallas. I'm a huge Reds fan and try to make the trip when they play at either place. My brother lives in Dallas, so I'll trek for a few other Rangers games. I've had MLB extra innings for 13 years. I buy all kinds of Reds merchandise, as does my 22 year old son, as well as some other teams stuff also. If money concerns ,not health concerns,keep them from playing this year, then I'm done. No more games, no more TV money, no more merchandise. I'm finished if they let economics blow this. This is a chance for MLB to maybe capture the young viewer. Most MLB fans are my age group and older. If they kill off that group they may kill themselves.

A lost season means way more to the players than the owners. I assume both sides realize that.

The players’ bodies are essentially depreciating assets. They can’t make up for lost time. They get less valuable as they age. The owners can/will simply replace them with younger players. Owners are losing revenue, but players are losing revenue and value (i.e. earning potential).

A given player’s net present value a year from now is likely to be significantly less than today’s NPV. That’s not the case for an MLB franchise with no expiration date.

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the players agreed to play under prorated salaries. the owners then immediately started asking for more concessions.

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You’re acting like the players made some concession by agreeing to playing under prorated salaries. They had no choice. It is written into their contracts. The owners made a relatively small concession in March by giving them an up front payment for the off months.

Now I agree the owners should just play by the provision in the contract and honor the prorated salaries.

What is happening to baseball? Less and less people watch baseball every single year. MLB or MLBPA seems to always screw something up. It seems like it’s dying and it makes me really sad. Is the game too formal and old school for our society today?

Oakland Athletics missed a rent payment to the Coliseum because they didn't have the money allegedly. Both sides are cutting off their nose to spite their face.

Players can't expect the league to operate losing so much money. Owners can't expect the players to agree to a salary cap.

They need to agree to some kind of revenue split with language stating that it is EXPLICITLY only temporary. Otherwise there will be a lockout.

It's hard to believe MLB leadership (on both sides) could be this foolish and shortsighted, but put a ton of money on the line and greed gets the better of all involved. MLB has got a chance to be the only game in town at a time when the country is starved for sports. It's an unprecedented opportunity to grow the sport, attract new eyes and market your stars. Instead they're going piss away that chance because they can't get on the same page on pay.

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MLB has the strongest players union in any sport, with by far the sweetest deal, and they aren't going to give an inch even if it means not playing a season, because they will fear setting a precedent.

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Maybe they should look back to see how the strike year went for them. Fans didn't exactly come back in droves. They were mostly pissed at the players and same here...fans will feel like it's the players fault there is no season.

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They need to agree to some kind of revenue split with language stating that it is EXPLICITLY only temporary.

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The temporary revenue split is the problem. It would mean the players are taking 50% of a lower amount, and when the amount skyrockets in the future they'll go back to where they were before the pandemic.

Using the media to attempt to guilt trip MLB players into revenue sharing because the 2020 outlook is unfavorable is bullshite. MLB revenues have doubled over the last decade and player salaries definitely have not. Honor the agreement in good times or bad.

Now if the owners want to bargain with the players here and maybe fix minor league pay/reduce the length of team control in exchange for revenue sharing, that’s different. But just coming to the players with a one sided amendment to the CBA and portraying them as “greedy” in the media is bullshite

Big $ players like Trout and Harper seem dead set on making it as difficult as possible to salvage a season.

there is middle ground here try harder.