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re: McMurphy: Pac-12 commish George Kliavkoff visiting SMU Wednesday
Posted on 2/15/23 at 4:07 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Posted on 2/15/23 at 4:07 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Boise and UNLV are both in the 280-300 range and both are candidates to join the Pac 12.
Boise is not in the top 330. They are in the 331-400 grouping with Jackson St, Southern, UALR, ULM, and University of Phoenix. UNLV is at least in the top 300, is in a metro, and has a top 65 law school. I honestly don't think people grasp how bad Boise State's academic profile is. In the early 2000s it was a trucking academy that offered some four year logistics programs. I heard a Fresno St alumni shite on them one time when discussing them moving on from the MWC. His sentiment was essentially that when his sister moved back after her fall sophomore semester and tried going to a CC the CC only took some of her HS credits and none from Boise.
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San Diego State
SMU
UNLV
Fresno St.
I agree with these four and possibly additional schools in the mountain/central time for SMU with olympic sports travel. Col St, Tulane, and Utah St will probably be candidates.
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Posted on 2/15/23 at 4:43 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
I just listened to Dennis Dodd and he said the PAC-12 was looking for $50 million per team. The landscape has changed so dramatically for the PAC-12 that they are having difficulty getting $20 million a team.
The Big 12 has the best commissioner in the country from what I'm seeing. He will be adding a basketball only division to the Big 12 (UConn, Gonzaga, Villanova, & St. Johns) along with Arizona, Arizona State, Utah, and Colorado. Dodd said Yormark's forcus is on monetizing basketball which has traditionally been bundled with football. He also said the Big 12 will be represented throughout the US not regionally.
BYUN interview with Dennis Dodd
The Big 12 has the best commissioner in the country from what I'm seeing. He will be adding a basketball only division to the Big 12 (UConn, Gonzaga, Villanova, & St. Johns) along with Arizona, Arizona State, Utah, and Colorado. Dodd said Yormark's forcus is on monetizing basketball which has traditionally been bundled with football. He also said the Big 12 will be represented throughout the US not regionally.
BYUN interview with Dennis Dodd
This post was edited on 2/15/23 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 2/15/23 at 4:49 pm to MrLSU
quote:what is the new AAC making?
The landscape has changed so dramatically for the PAC-12 that they are having difficulty getting $20 million a team.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 4:56 pm to AwesomeSauce
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I honestly don't think people grasp how bad Boise State's academic profile is.
It's not that people don't realize it. It's that they don't care.
It's not a factor. Period. Was it a factor 10 years ago? Or even 5 years ago? Yes.
Today, no.
There's a good chance many of the Pac 12 teams end up in the same conference with Boise anyway, though perhaps not this way. It could be by them joining the MWC.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 4:57 pm to chalmetteowl
The AAC signed their deal in 2019 for $4 million per team.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 4:58 pm to MrLSU
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(UConn, Gonzaga, Villanova, & St. Johns)
I wouldn't be against this, but I just can't see it.
The Big East has been down the road of being paired up in a football conference. They seem to be in a basketball utopia now, with great success and money.
They are with other small, basketball-minded schools now. What would they gain?
Posted on 2/16/23 at 8:21 am to cardswinagain
Washington and Ohio St have cancelled their future H&H football series.
The B12 also appears to have zeroed in on 4 schools to add from another P5 conference (presumed to be the AZ schools, Colorado, and Utah).
It appears the dominoes are about to start falling for the B12 and B1G, and then we'll see what happens between the MWC, PAC, and AAC. Without the Rose Bowl tie-in, and with no TV deal on the table for the PAC it will be interesting to see what those schools decide to do, and how proactive they will be. Could the MWC be proactive and make their westward push? Grab up SMU and the other rumored AAC schools that have been shown interest by the PAC? Does the PAC go after every available brand in the MWC and AAC?
The B12 also appears to have zeroed in on 4 schools to add from another P5 conference (presumed to be the AZ schools, Colorado, and Utah).
It appears the dominoes are about to start falling for the B12 and B1G, and then we'll see what happens between the MWC, PAC, and AAC. Without the Rose Bowl tie-in, and with no TV deal on the table for the PAC it will be interesting to see what those schools decide to do, and how proactive they will be. Could the MWC be proactive and make their westward push? Grab up SMU and the other rumored AAC schools that have been shown interest by the PAC? Does the PAC go after every available brand in the MWC and AAC?
Posted on 2/16/23 at 8:25 am to AwesomeSauce
The PAC is such a dumpster fire that it might actually be better for SMU and Tulane to stay put for the time being
Posted on 2/16/23 at 8:29 am to TulaneFan
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SMU and Tulane to stay put for the time being
SMU's boosters and administration have no desire to officially share a conference with UNT. They have been actively working to move to either the B12, PAC, or MWC since that vote was cast.
Posted on 2/16/23 at 9:12 am to AwesomeSauce
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SMU's boosters and administration have no desire to officially share a conference with UNT. They have been actively working to move to either the B12, PAC, or MWC since that vote was cast.
MWC is a lateral move and they’re going to die on the vine once the PAC inevitably is forced to raid them. The Big 12 already has Dallas/Forth Worth (TCU) and isn’t going to add another Texas school just for the hell of it.
I’m guessing SMU is waiting for the PAC to:
1. Lock down a media deal
2. Add enough teams to still exist in a few years
Posted on 2/16/23 at 12:43 pm to TulaneFan
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The PAC is such a dumpster fire that it might actually be better for SMU and Tulane to stay put for the time being
Not really an option short-term or long-term. AACUSA is a poor option and it's better for both teams to even move to a mixture of PAC-12/MWC teams if possible.
Posted on 2/16/23 at 3:13 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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he Big East has been down the road of being paired up in a football conference. They seem to be in a basketball utopia now, with great success and money. They are with other small, basketball-minded schools now. What would they gain
The Big 12 is building the first Super Conference. If they don’t get in now they won’t get in later and they will be reduced to irrelevance. It is going to happen as the landscape is about to change dramatically.
The entire Big East is not being invited only the schools that offer media ratings will get the invite.
Throw everything you know about the traditional conference model in the trash because the rise of the super conference is being led by the Big 12.
This post was edited on 2/17/23 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 2/16/23 at 7:00 pm to AwesomeSauce
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SMU's boosters and administration have no desire to officially share a conference with UNT. They have been actively working to move to either the B12, PAC, or MWC since that vote was cast.
Ehh kinda sorta not really. They have been working to get into the Big 12 or PAC 12 or any other P5 for more than a decade. It has nothing to do w/UNT. It’s all about the money. If the AAC made anywhere near what P5s make they wouldn’t be trying to upgrade. Also, the AAC makes more than the MWC so SMU isn’t looking to them unless the entire conference collapses.
Posted on 2/16/23 at 10:01 pm to Dr RC
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It has nothing to do w/UNT.
Yeah….that’s absolute BS! That’s like Tulane being ok with sharing a conference w/ ULL.
Posted on 2/16/23 at 10:20 pm to MrLSU
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The entire Big 12 is not being invited only the schools that offer media ratings will get the invite.
Ok, you kind of had me a bit. Now I know you are just trolling or are an idiot.
No one is getting kicked out of a conference. Especially not the Big 12.
Posted on 2/16/23 at 10:33 pm to NoBoDawg
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Yeah….that’s absolute BS! That’s like Tulane being ok with sharing a conference w/ ULL.
You’re straight nuts to think SMU and Tulane would balk at being in a conference w/UNT or ULL if said conference made Big 12/PAC 12/ACC money.
Posted on 2/16/23 at 10:58 pm to Dr RC
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You’re straight nuts to think SMU and Tulane would balk at being in a conference w/UNT or ULL if said conference made Big 12/PAC 12/ACC money.
Count me as “straight nuts” then! Rice is the exception, but SMU wants nothing to do with the commuter schools in Denton, San Antonio, Charlotte, or Birmingham….
Posted on 2/16/23 at 11:06 pm to TrueLefty
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I guess you are hoping for that. PAC 12 will be fine.
Pac12 has a serious fan problem. Nobody really cares about football in much of the league.
Posted on 2/17/23 at 8:54 am to The Third Leg
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Pac12 has a serious fan problem. Nobody really cares about football in much of the league.
I blame the conference for this attitude.
A few years back when SEC basketball sucked, the conference made a plan for schools to take it more serious. They forced spending levels, advised on coaching hires, helped with marketing, stadium design, etc.
Now the SEC is kicking arse in basketball. It needs to be top-down.
Posted on 2/17/23 at 9:02 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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Besides, Kliavkoff has publicly stated it's not even a factor. They also had a no "religious school" policy, but are courting SMU.
SMU Cuts Ties With UMC
SMU isn't technically a religious school anymore. They still have a theology school, but decisions are made by a board of trustees, not the church.
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