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re: Major MLB rule changes for 2023
Posted on 9/9/22 at 11:28 am to baldona
Posted on 9/9/22 at 11:28 am to baldona
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Is this shift rule really doing that much?
51 percent of all balls put in play last year (not counting home runs) were hit into a shift. Incredible. And that’s just balls in play.
Checking out just a few sources: “The Bill James Handbook.”
• There were 22 percent more hits taken away by the shift than those given away by the shift last season.
• The league-wide batting average dropped by four points last year based solely on hits turned into outs by the shift.
• A staggering 4,802 hits were taken away by balls hit into the shift in 2021. That far outweighed the 3,946 outs given away by what James described as defenses that shifted and got “too clever for their own good,” allowing hits on balls that likely would have been outs with no shift.
• According to Sports Info Solutions, pull-heavy shift candidates — most of them left-handed — batted just .219 last year on groundballs and short line drives when they faced a shift. Against no shift, that average jumped all the way to .247.
So when baseball began trotting out its anti-shift rules in the minor leagues last season, guess who the biggest fans of those rules happened to be? Ding-ding-ding. Right! Pretty much every left-handed pull-hitter on the continent.
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Posted on 9/9/22 at 11:32 am to bamameister
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Taking away the shift is not changing fundamental baseball. That is what baseball used to be. I could easily say that watching outfielders completely eliminate any well-struck fly ball hit in the gap is ruining baseball.
What about double play depth?
Infield in?
This are shifts of positions to get outs.
Don’t like the shift? Prioritize contact hitters
Posted on 9/9/22 at 11:37 am to bamameister
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The 40-second continuous clock has completely changed football.
The 40 second play clock didn't change the way the game of Football was played. Football is and has always been a timed game. Baseball was never meant to be put on a clock, or rushed. This and other changes are being made in an attempt to get a new set of fans to watch the game, that never will show up. The only thing MLB will do is push away their hardcore fanbase.
In the Mid-2000s, NASCAR started doing to exact same thing with constant rule changes, in a failed attempt to gain for viewers, only to watch their ratings decrease as the long time fans stopped watching. MLB is on the same path.
NFL/Football offenses evolved over the years, from the "West Coast" Offense, To the "Run and Shoot", and "teh Spread" all in an effort to gain an advantage over defenses. Rules against the Defenses were put in place to protect players, not to try to "increase scoring". MLB doesn't have a "Player safety issue".
limiting pickoff, limiting Defensive positioning, and Pitch Clock (I can be ok with this change, I don't like it, but can live with it), are massive handcuff put on defenses, and will result in the opposite, longer game times.
Posted on 9/9/22 at 11:41 am to bamameister
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Taking away the shift is not changing fundamental baseball. That is what baseball used to be.
Shifting has been a part of MLB for 100 years.
Posted on 9/9/22 at 11:46 am to Bumble Bee
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The 40 second play clock didn't change the way the game of Football was played. Football is and has always been a timed game.
Why do you think defenses suddenly couldn't get their players on the field? In 2008 college football implemented the continuous running clock. Now offenses didn't have to let defensive players substitute. If the offense keeps their team on the field they can just run to the LOS and snap the ball. They couldn't do that before. Another ramification is that now defensive coordinators can't bring in personnel for short-yardage and long-yardage situations. A huge offensive advantage. How different and game-changing is that Einstein?
Without that little old clock continuously running, how effective would Tennessee's and Ole Miss's game plan be? Not very.
Posted on 9/9/22 at 11:55 am to The Dude Abides
The pitcher can step off and throw you out. You have to read it all.
Posted on 9/9/22 at 12:00 pm to GCTigahs
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Yeah that's just stupid. They need to limit the step-offs WITHOUT a pick off attempt, not pick off attempts.
I think the NCAA is/was supposed to be implementing this. Basically you're allowed 1 step off, anything more and you have to throw to the base.
Posted on 9/9/22 at 12:05 pm to Allthatfades
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Only two infielders will be allowed on each side of second base, with all four required to be on the dirt (or inner grass)
What if it's bases loaded, one out, bottom of the ninth, tie game?
Smart thing there is 5 infielders and 2 outfielders.
Posted on 9/9/22 at 12:15 pm to Bestbank Tiger
When do we start enforcing rules that make pitchers who start the game have to go at least 6 innings, forcing at least 2 bunts a game, have homeruns start taking runs away after the offense hits its 3rd of the game, and suspends a player one game for every 50 strikeouts and 10 walks
Posted on 9/9/22 at 12:48 pm to WestCoastAg
The melts ITT are epic.
Posted on 9/9/22 at 1:02 pm to MrJimBeam
Now everyone is going to look like Ricky Henderson, yippee!!
Posted on 9/9/22 at 1:16 pm to baldona
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1st and 2B play deep, if you can't play the defense there you suck in the field anyway.
If the 1B is forty feet into the outfield grass, how are you going to throw anyone out at first on a grounder in the infield?
Posted on 9/9/22 at 1:17 pm to Indefatigable
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If the 1B is forty feet into the outfield grass, how are you going to throw anyone out at first on a grounder in the infield?
Pitcher covers.
Posted on 9/9/22 at 1:20 pm to LSUBoo
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Pitcher covers.
On a grounder to the shortstop? What about a chopper back up the middle that the pitcher fields? He has to beat the runner to the base now?
This entire set of rules changes (minus the pitch clock) is chasing solutions to an artificial problem, and won’t do anything to increase interest or shorten game times.
This post was edited on 9/9/22 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 9/9/22 at 1:24 pm to Indefatigable
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On a grounder to the shortstop? What about a chopper back up the middle that the pitcher fields? He has to beat the runner to the base now?
He has to beat the runner to the base now on some balls to the first baseman. It could be done... but it's not likely because teams treat their pitchers as if they can barely catch a pop up.
ETA: If all 4 infielders have to be on the dirt then the 1B will be close enough to cover anyway.
This post was edited on 9/9/22 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 9/9/22 at 1:29 pm to tccdc
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Or...and I know this is a crazy idea, have the batters learn to hit the opposite way...such crap..
All of your favorite hitters of yesteryear would struggle to hit oppo in todays game. They pitch completely different
Posted on 9/9/22 at 2:43 pm to saintsfan92612
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heavily in favor of the offense.
That is the purpose of these rules. It will be like the NFL and NBA where defense becomes secondary to scoring in order to draw more casual fans.
Posted on 9/9/22 at 2:46 pm to Zappas Stache
I like the new rule that when a batter hits a home run he gets to walk to the mound and give the pitcher a spanking in front of the whole crowd while his mom and dad watch from on deck circle.
Posted on 9/9/22 at 3:23 pm to witty alias
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The pitcher can step off and throw you out. You have to read it all.
Incorrect. The pitcher doesn't even have to throw it, the pitcher is basically given two "stops" for each batter the 3rd is either an out or a balk.
Whether the pitchers throws it to first or just steps back, is considered strike 1.
The point was to eliminate all this dicking around by the pitcher. Get to the mound and throw.
Yeah I understand that too many rules maybe too many, but hell the other option is you just give the pitcher 10 seconds between pitches.
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