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re: Major MLB rule changes for 2023

Posted on 9/9/22 at 9:15 am to
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
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Posted on 9/9/22 at 9:15 am to
What's being lost in all of this is that these changes(pitch clock, bigger bases) have been instituted in the minors since 2015 and the pitch clock has been in NCAA since 2011, so all of the younger guys are used to it and if you have noticed, a lot of the young pitchers now pitch quicker.

This is just another case of the MSB overreacting and yelling at clouds.
Posted by GCTigahs
Member since Oct 2014
2299 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 9:17 am to
Love the pitch clock rules. Most guys in MLB should be used to it as it’s been in the minors for a few years. 2.5hr games are the norm in MiLB.
Posted by OldmanBeasley
Charlotte
Member since Jun 2014
10498 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 9:18 am to
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What's being lost in all of this is that these changes(pitch clock, bigger bases) have been instituted in the minors since 2015 and the pitch clock has been in NCAA since 2011, so all of the younger guys are used to it and if you have noticed, a lot of the young pitchers now pitch quicker. This is just another case of the MSB overreacting and yelling at clouds.


Most people don’t have an issue with those two changes. It’s the others people don’t like.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
99838 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 9:28 am to
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Only two infielders will be allowed on each side of second base, with all four required to be on the dirt (or inner grass)





Let's see if this stupid bastard can salvage his career and pepper the 4 hole or if he keeps swinging for the fences and striking out.


I really hate the idea of banning the shift. It's absurd. It was a natural evolution of the game based on tendencies of hitters. Put your defense where the guy is going to hit the ball. In a competitive sense there's zero logic to it. As a pitching team we know this LHB is going to ground out pull side between 1st and 2nd but because he did it so often and never changed, were forced to play him straight up and let a ball we otherwise would have easily fielded go by for a hit.
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
16584 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 9:40 am to
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I really hate the idea of banning the shift. It's absurd.


Baseball is doing everything in its power to create more scoring. Speeding the game up wouldn't hurt either. Besides, it's going to help a lot of pull hitters careers.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112430 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 9:49 am to
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Or...and I know this is a crazy idea, have the batters learn to hit the opposite way...such crap..

t's pretty wild that a defense can't setup anywhere they want.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
6893 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 9:53 am to
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The goal is to increase action on the field, quicken the pace and reduce the amount of time it takes to play a major league game.


It's like the people making the rules don't even understand the game. The time limit on baseball is directly related to the number of outs available. So their plan to decrease game time is to increase the amount of "action" (ie, runs) and make it more difficult for the defense to create outs.

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Two disengagements from the rubber -- including pickoff attempts -- per plate appearance


So after two disengagements the runner knows the pitcher can't pick him off. I guess that's what they're going for, but I can't agree with it.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
54702 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 10:05 am to
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t's pretty wild that a defense can't setup anywhere they want.


This is like the NFL telling teams they can only play a soft 4-3 defense and they can't blitz.

What a joke.
Posted by YMCA
It's Fun to Stay
Member since May 2011
4682 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 10:12 am to
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Two disengagements from the rubber -- including pickoff attempts -- per plate appearance


So the runner just gets a big arse lead and steals if the pitcher reaches his two disengagements?
Posted by Bumble Bee
Northwest, La
Member since Jan 2011
827 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 10:22 am to
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Two disengagements from the rubber -- including pickoff attempts -- per plate appearance


Ricky Henderson and Vince Coleman would have loved this rule change in the 80s.

Stupidest rule change along with banning the shift.
Posted by bamameister
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Member since May 2016
16584 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 10:35 am to
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This is like the NFL telling teams they can only play a soft 4-3 defense and they can't blitz.

What a joke.




Have you been watching? The NFL is going all college football. Rules favor the offense. Hits on the QB, and hitting defenseless receivers has completely opened the middle of the field again in the NFL. Illegal contact beyond 5 yards has changed plenty of offensive schemes.

The NFL went to a 40-second play clock. This, like college, lets teams go fast. The spread is here and is taking over offenses in the NFL. Scoring is up.

Maybe it's past time for MLB to join the club.
Posted by OldmanBeasley
Charlotte
Member since Jun 2014
10498 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 10:39 am to
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So the runner just gets a big arse lead and steals if the pitcher reaches his two disengagements?

Someone posted that the pitcher can attempt a pickoff after the second attempt, but if the runner is safe on that attempt it’s considered a balk.
Posted by GCTigahs
Member since Oct 2014
2299 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 10:49 am to
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Someone posted that the pitcher can attempt a pickoff after the second attempt, but if the runner is safe on that attempt it’s considered a balk.


Yeah that's just stupid. They need to limit the step-offs WITHOUT a pick off attempt, not pick off attempts.
Posted by TigerSprings
Southeast LA
Member since Jan 2019
2286 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 10:54 am to
Probably a balk for a lot of them. Similar to a Fielder's Balk.
Posted by Bumble Bee
Northwest, La
Member since Jan 2011
827 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 10:59 am to
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Have you been watching? The NFL is going all college football. Rules favor the offense. Hits on the QB, and hitting defenseless receivers has completely opened the middle of the field again in the NFL. Illegal contact beyond 5 yards has changed plenty of offensive schemes.

The NFL went to a 40-second play clock. This, like college, lets teams go fast. The spread is here and is taking over offenses in the NFL. Scoring is up.

Maybe it's past time for MLB to join the club.


many of the NFL's changes was for "Player Safety". The rule changes that are being proposed for MLB will fundamentally change the game. Hitters don't want to learn how to be complete hitters, so we have the make a rule to help their batting average. The Pick off rule just seems like something that was thrown in to show how ridiculous these rules are, yet was taken too seriously and will more than likely pass.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
75079 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 11:03 am to
Teams are just going to take off running once the ball is pitched to extreme pull/push hitters.
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
16584 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 11:11 am to
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The rule changes that are being proposed for MLB will fundamentally change the game.


The 40-second continuous clock has completely changed football. College and NFL. It has created the HUNH approach. It has made RPO spread teams who they are. How much change do you need on one rule alone?

Taking away the shift is not changing fundamental baseball. That is what baseball used to be. I could easily say that watching outfielders completely eliminate any well-struck fly ball hit in the gap is ruining baseball.

MLB has already made changes about mound visits that have sped up the game. Everything they do, simply because they do it, isn't automatically wrong.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
148116 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 11:12 am to
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That is what baseball used to be
teams shifted on ted williams
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
22486 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 11:17 am to
Is this shift rule really doing that much? If SS moves to directly behind 2nd and 1st and 2B play deep, if you can't play the defense there you suck in the field anyway.

As said, it will make a good defensive 2B more valuable.

Something not mentioned, is that if the pitchers would hurry up it would also prevent steals. Stop giving the damn basemen time to think and move. Get in the stretch and just throw it.
Posted by The Dude Abides
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2010
2260 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 11:26 am to
after the second one just take off for second when he comes set
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