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re: Looks Like Coyotes Are Leaving Arizona

Posted on 5/18/23 at 7:05 am to
Posted by Warheel
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 5/18/23 at 7:05 am to
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A lot of people have looked at that look logo for years or when the Hurricanes have used it for throwbacks on occasion and never realized the H and W were there. It is a damn good logo, props to whoever designed that.


The logo designer recently passed away LINK



Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
7496 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 8:34 am to
One of the issues that always gets confused in these relocation sagas is that it's not always about a "deserving" market alone. It's a confluence of factors, starting with ownership, then corporate base, TV markets, and finally building size/long-term prospects.

Looking at the overall landscape, SLC *probably* has the best mix, as Jazz owner has worked with NHL in the past. But I wouldn't count out KC. They have everything needed, and I'm sure Mahomes/Hunt would be involved. The Sprint Center was built for hockey (Penguins were supposrd to relocate there) and doesn't have an anchor tenant, nor any winter sports competition.

Bring back the Scouts.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
54818 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 8:43 am to
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How old is it? The newer NHL rinks are incredible. I'm sure the new NBA ones are too. A lot of those are shared though. I was pissed when I found out the Red Wings allowed the Pistons to share their new Little Ceasars arena


Isn’t that pretty standard? Who owns that arena?
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
11102 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 8:51 am to
I always thought that the NBA would come back to Kansas City before the NHL. It is in a center of college hoop support that goes beyond KU and MU with the other colleges in the region that play hoops.

The Pacers have done well and have shown that a region that loves college basketball will support the NBA and both can thrive in the same area.
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
11102 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 8:54 am to
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I was pissed when I found out the Red Wings allowed the Pistons to share their new Little Ceasars arena. What a stupid name. At least if they wanted to name it after the ownership (the Ilitich family owns and started Little Ceasars and also owns the Wings and Tigers) They should have named it Little Caesars Palace. I guess that would be too close to the Palace of Auburn Hills where the Pistons used to play.


I was surprised that the Pistons gave up on their suburban market. The irony is that the Pistons had their fanbase in more upscale Oakland County than Wayne County. I always thought they would build a new arena in the Silverdome/Palace area. Plenty of room. They had no problem selling out The Palace when winning. I wonder if the recent lack of success has led them to take a hit in the pocketbook, but the tv money from the NBA is so good. Pistons must have gotten such a great deal to move that it makes sense for them to move.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 10:45 am to
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why not Austin?


Because frick austin.

That's why.
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
39157 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 10:49 am to
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I always thought that the NBA would come back to Kansas City before the NHL. It is in a center of college hoop support that goes beyond KU and MU with the other colleges in the region that play hoops.

KC deserves something, whether it's NBA or NHL, IMO. (not sure if they could support both). T-Mobile Center is a top notch arena in a great part of town. I think their fans would support either league well.
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
39157 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 10:51 am to
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Cumming.
sir, this is a wendy's
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
7496 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 10:58 am to
Cumming is a town in Forsyth County, Georgia. The local Mellow Mushroom (when that was still a hole in the wall, pirate ship company) sold t-shirts that said "I love Cumming."

As a child growing up there, I didn't get it. As a teenager driving up 400 past the Siemens water tower, it was hilarious.
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
39157 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 11:03 am to
oh i know. love that they play into it at least. Late high school/college age Pedro wouldve had a field day. We used to get in shite on track trips for the Kum and Go stations.
Posted by SoDakHawk
South Dakota
Member since Jun 2014
10642 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 11:07 am to
People overlooking KC need to remember that Omaha is just a couple of hours up the road and is a historically solid hockey town going back to the old days of the Omaha Knights minor league hockey teams to the current USHL Omaha Lancers and D1 Omaha Mavericks.

You can add that metro area of 1 million plus to KC's market area for fan base and TV market.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88509 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 11:16 am to
Posted by Jack Bauer7
Member since Jun 2012
5174 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 11:44 am to
Rather them stay in Arizona then go to the black hole of Atlanta,

Terrible sports town
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61014 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 11:57 am to
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Not sure if Houston works either bc IIRC the Rockets have been very hostile to sharing the Toyota Center


The issue was the previous owner of the Rockets Les Alexander would only support an NHL team and share the arena was if he owned it or got a piece of the revenue which of course other potential NHL owners wouldn’t agree to. He has since sold the team and the current Rockets owner would be the most likely candidate to buy an NHL team
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
7496 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 11:58 am to
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Terrible sports town



The template franchise for MLS, a middle-of-the road NBA team drawing over 100% capacity, a baseball team with a world series title and a sports complex the envy of other teams, and an NFL team that, even when shitty, dominates the sports landscape.

Truly a terrible sports town.
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 12:02 pm to
For a mid sized city with only 1 other major league franchise like Salt Lake or Portland, you'd prefer not to pair an NHL team with an NBA team.

That said, both of those cities need new arenas badly so this could be a win / win / win and actually HELP the existing NBA franchises.

Kansas city makes the most sense as they have a good arena and no NBA team
This post was edited on 5/18/23 at 12:03 pm
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63404 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 12:03 pm to
Really seems like KC is the logical destination if an ownership group steps up or the current Coyotes owner wants to go there
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
7496 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 12:06 pm to
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Omaha


Absolutely was a factor in my thought process for Kansas City.

Proximity to a growing city with a strong hockey tradition makes a lot of sense.
Posted by McMillan
Member since Jul 2018
7288 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 12:12 pm to
Move them to either QC or Hartford, CT.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
54818 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 12:27 pm to
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For a mid sized city with only 1 other major league franchise like Salt Lake or Portland, you'd prefer not to pair an NHL team with an NBA team.


That’s the best pairing because both of those share the same venues most of the time…
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