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Jalen Hurts 1st half vs 2nd half stats so far this season are worth taking a look at
Posted on 9/25/22 at 8:56 pm
Posted on 9/25/22 at 8:56 pm
First half:
Rating 109.2
10.4 yards per attempt
6.4 yards per carry
72 points scored
Second half:
Rating 68.4
6.6 yards per attempt
3.2 yards per carry
14 points scored (shut out the last two weeks)
For the record, the splits were similar in most of his games against average to bad teams last year as well. Pretty clear what’s happening here, and why those who really pay attention to this stuff have no faith in him or the Eagles model leading to any meaningful success.
Rating 109.2
10.4 yards per attempt
6.4 yards per carry
72 points scored
Second half:
Rating 68.4
6.6 yards per attempt
3.2 yards per carry
14 points scored (shut out the last two weeks)
For the record, the splits were similar in most of his games against average to bad teams last year as well. Pretty clear what’s happening here, and why those who really pay attention to this stuff have no faith in him or the Eagles model leading to any meaningful success.
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Posted on 9/25/22 at 8:57 pm to Roger Klarvin
He spent the second half of his past two games running clock. That should be considered.
Posted on 9/25/22 at 8:58 pm to sorantable
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He spent the second half of his past two games running clock. That should be considered.
Correct, but the games werent such blowouts that they could just pack it in. They were not trying to do anything substantially different, but the defenses were. Which is the point.
What the Eagles are doing is extremely reproducible and works for a while against average to bad competition. It also has a relatively low ceiling and consistently gets figured out by NFL coordinators, even those who lack lots of talent.
Good defenses are going to eventually start eating this up from the opening kick.
This post was edited on 9/25/22 at 9:00 pm
Posted on 9/25/22 at 8:59 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:
Pretty clear what’s happening here
Care to elaborate?
It mostly looks like the Eagles are molly whopping their opponents.
Posted on 9/25/22 at 9:00 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
quote:
Care to elaborate?
NFL coordinators are able to completely shut down what they are doing with 15 minutes and a white board.
Posted on 9/25/22 at 9:01 pm to Roger Klarvin
Eagles took their foots off the gas, each game they’ve slaughtered in the first half who cares about the 2nd
Posted on 9/25/22 at 9:02 pm to Roger Klarvin
24-0 against Washington might as well be 50-0. Zero chance they were coming back from that..
Hurts has weapons and a top 5 OLine, he'll be fine.
Hurts has weapons and a top 5 OLine, he'll be fine.
Posted on 9/25/22 at 9:02 pm to Roger Klarvin
This OP is funny
Posted on 9/25/22 at 9:03 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:Are you sure?
Correct, but the games werent such blowouts that they could just pack it in. They were not trying to do anything substantially different
Posted on 9/25/22 at 9:04 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:
the Eagles model
They lucked into a cheap, serviceable QB. What "model" ?
Posted on 9/25/22 at 9:07 pm to Roger Klarvin
How come they can’t do that from the start?
Posted on 9/25/22 at 9:09 pm to Roger Klarvin
weird melt
Posted on 9/25/22 at 9:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
They lucked into a cheap, serviceable QB. What "model" ?
They are running a base three read, heavy RPO scheme. They’re giving Hurts a run/pass read and then a single downfield read with a check down . Lots of clear out and decoy routes that are never getting the ball. And they’re supplementing that with called QB run and his scrambling ability. Almost everything they do is designed to generate offense without hurts having to actually read coverages and go through multiple passing reads.
These don’t work consistently in the NFL because coordinators are too good, defenses are too fast and eventually they figure out which players on a given play actually have any chance of getting the ball and eat it up. Every year one or two teams with enough talent to spam them get away with it for a while but it never leads to meaningful success. The closest anyone ever got was the 2012 49ers, largely because it was more new and unique at the time.
This post was edited on 9/25/22 at 9:12 pm
Posted on 9/25/22 at 9:14 pm to Roger Klarvin
They've got possibly the best WR duo in the league and a top 5 TE. Sanders is a good back and they have a great OL. The offense is tough to stop even if DCs "figure it out"
They're def a contender in a weak NFC this year.
They're def a contender in a weak NFC this year.
This post was edited on 9/25/22 at 9:15 pm
Posted on 9/25/22 at 9:17 pm to Sevendust912
They’ll almost certainly win the East because their schedule is a joke, Washington/NY are terrible and Dallas will be in such a hole when Prescott gets back they won’t be able to make it up. They may even win a playoff game. But they’re not gonna be able to beat teams with good QB play and playoff caliber defenses in January.
Posted on 9/25/22 at 9:18 pm to NIH
quote:
How come they can’t do that from the start?
Right?
I’m sure they have a similar approach that they have used to open each of the last three games. If a coach can do this in 15 minutes during halftime, why can’t he do it the day before the game?
Posted on 9/25/22 at 9:22 pm to TackySweater
quote:
a coach can do this in 15 minutes during halftime, why can’t he do it the day before the game?
quote:
Pretty clear what’s happening here
Posted on 9/25/22 at 9:26 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:
NFL coordinators are able to completely shut down what they are doing with 15 minutes and a white board.
Yet couldn't figure it out with a week to prepare and tons of game tape? But those Magic 15 minutes is what does it...Not the 3 TD lead.
Posted on 9/25/22 at 10:36 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:
They’re giving Hurts a run/pass read and then a single downfield read with a check down . Lots of clear out and decoy routes that are never getting the ball. And they’re supplementing that with called QB run and his scrambling ability.
How many reads do you want him to make? He's not doing the Rodgers/Brady pre snap master class, but few young QBs are.
There are a lot of shitty QBs in the NFL but Hurts isn't one of them right now. Not sure what you're getting at.
Posted on 9/25/22 at 10:38 pm to ReauxlTide222
This thread is cracking me up
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