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re: It's going to be sad watching OKC break up in a year or so

Posted on 6/3/12 at 10:45 am to
Posted by Tigerbait337
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2008
20535 posts
Posted on 6/3/12 at 10:45 am to
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I'd rather build around Durant than Westbrook is all I'm getting at.



I don't think thats in question. Its building around Durant with Westbrook, or building around Durant with Harden and Ibaka
Posted by floridatigah
FL
Member since Oct 2004
10398 posts
Posted on 6/3/12 at 10:47 am to
How does the new CBA work, can the Thunder trade one of Ibaka/Harden after next season without an extension (they'd be in the same situation EG is now for the Hornets)? Or would they have to do it in season? I'm pretty sure sign and trades aren't allowed by this time next year.
Posted by MinnesotaTiger
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/3/12 at 10:56 am to
Okc has really cheap tickets - they could easily jack avg ticket prices by 15% to help offset luxury threshold.

Also love idea of trading Westbrook for a very high lottery pick as PGs are pretty easy to spot in draft.
Posted by LSUTIGER in TEXAS
Member since Jan 2008
13686 posts
Posted on 6/3/12 at 10:57 am to
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i don't think that the position "point guard" really exists on the thunder, honestly
no shite. westbrook is a 6'3 shooting guard dribbling the ball up every possession
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Presti is one of the best if not the best in the NBA.
ya hes amazing: hit on #2 pick in the draft, #3 in the draft, #4 in the draft, and botched a #5(green), and hit a late first developmental pick(iblaka). seems he had plenty of premium picks to make it happen. we'll see how great he is when steering in and around the cap.
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They can go well over the cap to sign those guys. Don't know if money is an issue, they seem to be doing just fine.
they can, but OKC doesnt really have an endless revenue stream like yankees/cowboys/lakers.
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I'm holding out both Harden and Ibaka will take a discount
jesus, dude
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They never should have extended Perkins. He is decent at best and not the worth the strain on the salary cap.
hes the best low post defender in the nba per JVG. how many guards/wings do you need eating up the whole cap? you gotta have someone playing D and getting boards.
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It is fricking nuts how much Westbrook is underrated.

He is a me-first player. He does not pass like a real PG.
hes a great athlete playing out of position. hes just not a point guard.
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He takes so much shite for absolutely no reason just cause everyone is always beating off to Durant, so Westbrook is the scapegoat when they lose.
completely agree
Posted by MinnesotaTiger
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Posted on 6/3/12 at 10:57 am to
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Point Guards are similar to RBs in the NFL in my opinion, dime a dozen and theres always (maybe not this year) a PG in the draft that can step in and lead a contender to a championship.


Well put.
Posted by floridatigah
FL
Member since Oct 2004
10398 posts
Posted on 6/3/12 at 11:03 am to
There was a nice stretch of PG's for a while, but there isn't one in this draft, there isn't one in next year's draft, and there is nothing special at the HS level right now. I'd hold onto a great PG if I had one.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112854 posts
Posted on 6/3/12 at 11:06 am to
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westbrook is the leader

durant is the superior player

i don't really think many people argue this anymore after last year's playoffs, this year, and this year's playoffs

This
Posted by ElroyJetSon
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
4018 posts
Posted on 6/3/12 at 11:11 am to
Sad for who? all of the bandwagon OKC fans?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112854 posts
Posted on 6/3/12 at 11:19 am to
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Sad for who?
fans of watching an exciting brand of basketball.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476632 posts
Posted on 6/3/12 at 11:27 am to
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fans of watching an exciting brand of basketball.


pretty much
Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
11536 posts
Posted on 6/3/12 at 11:42 am to
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and botched a #5(green)


How exactly did he botch that pick? Green averaged 15 points and 6 rebounds his last 2.5 years with the Thunder. You would be hard pressed to find a better player that went after Green in that draft.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 6/3/12 at 11:48 am to
All the OKC players will take team friendly deals to stay together and win 6 championships in a row
Posted by cornstarch
Member since May 2010
2226 posts
Posted on 6/3/12 at 12:07 pm to
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ya hes amazing: hit on #2 pick in the draft, #3 in the draft, #4 in the draft, and botched a #5(green), and hit a late first developmental pick(iblaka). seems he had plenty of premium picks to make it happen. we'll see how great he is when steering in and around the cap.

Like someone above me said, how was Jeff Green a botched pick? He was good for us, but he just didn't fit in with the scheme of the team - so we traded him? Not a botch at all actually.
Posted by AlexLSU
Member since Jan 2005
25341 posts
Posted on 6/3/12 at 12:32 pm to
The Thunder need to keep Durant, Westbrook and Ibaka.

Harden is the most expendable, IMO.
Posted by FOAK
Member since Mar 2011
324 posts
Posted on 6/3/12 at 2:41 pm to
Not to nit pick your post, but AI played SG. Snow was Philly's PG.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 6/3/12 at 4:48 pm to
The hate that Westbrook gets on this board is unbelievable to me. The Thunder aren't winning a title without him. They don't need John Stocton running their team. Like SFP said, the dude has averaged over 8 assists in 2 of his 4 pro seasons. He is capable of making plays when he needs to. He's not a selfish player. He has a mismatch just about every time he's on the court, and his team needs him to score. People talk out of their arse so much on this board.
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 6/3/12 at 5:04 pm to
People know who owns OKC right? Aubrey McClendon does not give a flying frick about losing money, if he wants to keep all of them he will. Its not a money issue, it rarely ever is.
This post was edited on 6/3/12 at 5:05 pm
Posted by fightingtiger2335
heh?
Member since Aug 2007
61157 posts
Posted on 6/3/12 at 5:51 pm to
I love westbrook...but I wouldn't just blanket statement he's not selfish. When he struggles he tries to shoot his way out of slump like most...which can hurt them. When his shots on he passes alot more. He just forces a lot when struggles. He rarely struggles.so when it does happen its magnified
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476632 posts
Posted on 6/3/12 at 6:22 pm to
it's also magnified b/c he's playing next to durant, who has "free pass" disease
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
39622 posts
Posted on 6/3/12 at 6:37 pm to
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it's also magnified b/c he's playing next to durant, who has "free pass" disease



This cannot be stated enough.
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