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re: Is Kyle Schwarber a Hall of Fame inductee?
Posted on 6/28/26 at 11:10 pm to Indiangensing
Posted on 6/28/26 at 11:10 pm to Indiangensing
He’s got a shot if he gets to 500 bombs. Compared to another DH in Harold Baines, his stats are much better albeit Harold is a very debatable entrance anyway.
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 3:05 am to tiger turney
I've never thought of him as a great player except for last year. He's only had 3 seasons of 3 or more WAR. But 500 home runs may get him there. But he's 33. And some players quickly deteriorate around that age.
This post was edited on 6/29/26 at 3:36 am
Posted on 6/29/26 at 6:21 am to CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
He's this generation's version of Dave Kingman.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 6:59 am to tiger turney
He has played his best baseball the last 2 plus years. Before that he was an extreme 3-outcome guy that hit around .200 most of the time.....even Dave Kingman had a better BA in comparison.
Banning the shift helped him and he just started hitting for average better in general - and I know BA is not valued anymore but if he would put a resume before the Hall voters with a .210 career average that would have stood out like a sore thumb. He hit .197 in 160 games in 2023.
He seems to be one of those somewhat rare folks that peak in their mid-30's. If he can keep up the pace of what he is doing now for another say 4 years, he'll have a shot.
Banning the shift helped him and he just started hitting for average better in general - and I know BA is not valued anymore but if he would put a resume before the Hall voters with a .210 career average that would have stood out like a sore thumb. He hit .197 in 160 games in 2023.
He seems to be one of those somewhat rare folks that peak in their mid-30's. If he can keep up the pace of what he is doing now for another say 4 years, he'll have a shot.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 7:18 am to CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
Zips had him projected at 41HR this year and he just hit MLB leading 30th. He is on pace to break the Phillies single season record of 58 by Howard.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:36 am to tiger turney
Dave Kingman
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:47 am to Indiangensing
Kyle Schwarber is the ninth player in MLB history to hit 30-plus home runs in each of their first 5 seasons with a franchise. He is the third to do so in National League history, joining Albert Pujols and Barry Bonds.
the list:
Miguel Cabrera
A Rod (PEDS)
Big Papi Ortiz (rumored PEDS)
Pujols (rumored PEDS)
Manny Ramirez (PEDS)
Bonds (PEDS)
Foxx (no drug testing at time)
Ruth (no drug testing at time)
the list:
Miguel Cabrera
A Rod (PEDS)
Big Papi Ortiz (rumored PEDS)
Pujols (rumored PEDS)
Manny Ramirez (PEDS)
Bonds (PEDS)
Foxx (no drug testing at time)
Ruth (no drug testing at time)
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:48 am to RemouladeSawce
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Career .232 hitter that almost certainly ends up lower, OPS in good-not-great territory (.853), and DH?
This is the comment I came to make, if Schwarber sticks around 5 more years (to get 500 hrs) his OPS will probably be closer to the .800-.820 range.
For a DH, that's pretty whelming
That said, his 2 best years have been his last 2, if he's turned a corner he could still make us look silly
This post was edited on 6/29/26 at 9:49 am
Posted on 6/29/26 at 10:00 am to MasterAbe1
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He’s got a shot if he gets to 500 bombs
He easily gets to 500 unless injuries start soon. He’s @370 right now with no signs of slowing down
Posted on 6/29/26 at 1:11 pm to tiger turney
500 home runs is almost a lock for HOF. He could end this season at or near the 400 mark.
He has a low batting average and he's not a great defender. He would have to get to 500 to to even sniff a HOF ballot.
He has a low batting average and he's not a great defender. He would have to get to 500 to to even sniff a HOF ballot.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 1:19 pm to nicholastiger
The only guys eligible not in the hall with 500 HRs are all steroid guys. Feels like he is in if he hits 500
Not in with 500 HR
Barry Bonds
* Alex Rodriguez
* Sammy Sosa
* Mark McGwire
* Rafael Palmeiro
* Manny Ramirez
* Gary Sheffield
Not in with 500 HR
Barry Bonds
* Alex Rodriguez
* Sammy Sosa
* Mark McGwire
* Rafael Palmeiro
* Manny Ramirez
* Gary Sheffield
Posted on 6/29/26 at 1:32 pm to tiger turney
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Is Kyle Schwarber a Hall of Fame inductee?
Posted on 6/29/26 at 1:56 pm to HuskyPanda
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He has a low batting average and he's not a great defender. He would have to get to 500 to to even sniff a HOF ballot.
This is why I would have a huge problem with him getting in. Baseball is so much more than hitting home runs. I hate to see their value continuing to rise as time goes on.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 3:20 pm to High C
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This is why I would have a huge problem with him getting in. Baseball is so much more than hitting home runs. I hate to see their value continuing to rise as time goes on.
He does take a lot of walks and always has, which - for those comparing him Kingman - Kingman did not walk a lot and did not make it to 500 homers.
The comparison to Kingman does ring true in comparing ratio of homers to other hits, and his struggles finding a place to play in the field and anything close to a mediocre level. But he does get on base at higher clip when you figure the walks in.
But yeah as others have said he's going to have to get over 500 to be considered and maybe keep his average at a better level his last 4-5 years to sniff it.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 3:29 pm to lsupride87
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The only guys eligible not in the hall with 500 HRs are all steroid guys. Feels like he is in if he hits 500
A lot of people use this as the argument for KS but they ignore the fact that most every player with 500 HRs also had other attributes that were very good or great. Most players who hit 500 are really great hitters. Schwarber is not .
His closest comp might end up being Harmon Killebrew who still has him by 20 points in career BA and 30 in career OBP and WAR by nearly 40 right now. The WAR discrepancy will obviously decrease but the others likely won’t
This post was edited on 6/29/26 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 6/29/26 at 3:32 pm to VinegarStrokes
Yeah I’m don’t think he would get in at 500 HR, and reaching that is going to be a very tall task at this point being realistic about it.
It would be different if he were just DHing in the back half of his career
It would be different if he were just DHing in the back half of his career
This post was edited on 6/29/26 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 6/29/26 at 3:51 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
Schwarber is basically a worse version of Giancarlo Stanton and Jim Thome. Tons of strikeouts, tons of home runs. But his career BA is significantly worse than both. Thome also at least played an actual position way more and got to 600 HRs.
It's kind of amazing that 1/3 of Schwarber's career hits are HRs
The only people not in the HOF w 500 career HRs are steroid guys, so Schwarber would be a great test subject for that should he get to that milestone
It's kind of amazing that 1/3 of Schwarber's career hits are HRs
The only people not in the HOF w 500 career HRs are steroid guys, so Schwarber would be a great test subject for that should he get to that milestone
This post was edited on 6/29/26 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 6/29/26 at 3:54 pm to lsufball19
Yeah I would be fascinated to see what happens if he does. I don’t think he would get in if he just clears it, but who knows.
I am of the opinion that when Father Time comes for him and the bat speed begins to decline, the drop off will be steep and swift.
I am of the opinion that when Father Time comes for him and the bat speed begins to decline, the drop off will be steep and swift.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 9:11 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
People talk about Steph Curry being this transformative player whose style changed the game.
It’s time for Adam Dunn to get his due as the modern mlb archetype.
It’s time for Adam Dunn to get his due as the modern mlb archetype.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 9:21 am to ned nederlander
Adam Dunn one of the worst arms in MLB history
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and now the trailers over the same time period.
Brian Giles – -19.5 runs
Juan Pierre – -16.3 runs
Jermaine Dye – -13.5 runs
Shawn Green – -12.3 runs
Adam Dunn – -12.2 runs
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