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re: Is Deion/Colorado similar to John Thompson/Georgetown from the 80s?
Posted on 9/27/23 at 12:51 pm to saintsfan22
Posted on 9/27/23 at 12:51 pm to saintsfan22
Short version: No, not remotely.
Long version: Thompson was unabashedly who he was; he never backed down from a fight, from being confrontational, and being opinionated about race.
That said, John Thompson was a coach first, and an inveterate competitor. He had little time for media distractions, unless they were helping him recruit, then he'd tolerate a tiny bit of circus.
Long version: Thompson was unabashedly who he was; he never backed down from a fight, from being confrontational, and being opinionated about race.
That said, John Thompson was a coach first, and an inveterate competitor. He had little time for media distractions, unless they were helping him recruit, then he'd tolerate a tiny bit of circus.
Posted on 9/27/23 at 1:01 pm to SportsGuyNOLA
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Both are considered racists and sloppy coaches who exclusively recruited a certain color of athlete, so yes?
say what you want about Deion, but he recruits white kids.
he has 8 recruits right. ow and 2 are white.
LSU has 24 commits and 1 guy is white.
Posted on 9/27/23 at 3:20 pm to SportsGuyNOLA
quote:back in HS, I worked DePaul Basketball games at the Rosemont Horizon. was a pretty sweet gig tbh.
Both are considered racists and sloppy coaches who exclusively recruited a certain color of athlete, so yes
anyway, must have been 1992 when Coach Thompson and the Hoyas were in town for a nationally televised Saturday afternoon game on CBS and I remember being personally insulted that there wasn’t one white face on the entire team/staff. ffs even the walk-ons at the end of the bench were black kids lol never seen that before (or since).
on a positive note, the Blue Demons (who had plenty of white kids) played one hell of a game and knocked off the mighty Hoyas that day. good times…
Posted on 9/27/23 at 3:20 pm to TeamLSU
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was Bear Bryant a racist also
Ummm...yes? I mean, does anyone seriously doubt this? I don't think he was egregiously or exceptionally so relative to his time, but he was hardly a trail-blazer for racial equality.
Posted on 9/27/23 at 3:43 pm to Mike the Tiger 1999
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anyway, must have been 1992 when Coach Thompson and the Hoyas were in town for a nationally televised Saturday afternoon game on CBS and I remember being personally insulted that there wasn’t one white face on the entire team/staff. ffs even the walk-ons at the end of the bench were black kids lol never seen that before (or since).
Posted on 9/27/23 at 4:01 pm to SammyTiger
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LSU has 24 commits and 1 guy is white.
There aren’t many Wes Weeks out there.
Posted on 9/27/23 at 4:06 pm to profwilson
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was Bear Bryant a racist also
Ummm...yes? I mean, does anyone seriously doubt this? I don't think he was egregiously or exceptionally so relative to his time, but he was hardly a trail-blazer for racial equality.
That was my point. But you would be surprised at how many people would deny this.
Posted on 9/27/23 at 5:41 pm to Byrdybyrd05
Super bad take comparing the two
Posted on 9/27/23 at 6:40 pm to saintsfan22
quote:lmao well they must have left this dude at home…I can see why, considering the fact he played in 4 games all year and missed all 10 of his FGA
Vladimir Bosanac
“The only European recruit in the John Thompson era…saw increasingly limited playing time over three years on the varsity, scoring on 13 just percent of his field goals attempted and scoreless in nine attempts from the three point arc”
Posted on 9/27/23 at 6:49 pm to Mike the Tiger 1999
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and scoreless in nine attempts from the three point arc”
Posted on 9/27/23 at 6:54 pm to SportsGuyNOLA
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Both are considered racists and sloppy coaches who exclusively recruited a certain color of athlete, so yes?
Why are you the way you are?
Posted on 9/28/23 at 10:56 am to Mike the Tiger 1999
I remember the Thompson time and reading about the team. I was in Houston then and UH got the local coverage. I don't remember Thompson getting the huge coverage during UH games that I've seen Sanders get just in the short time he's been in Boulder.
It was a different time, coaches weren't paid as much so there wasn't as much jumping from job to job. I don't recall any chatter about Thompson being on the make for his next job.
It was a different time, coaches weren't paid as much so there wasn't as much jumping from job to job. I don't recall any chatter about Thompson being on the make for his next job.
Posted on 9/28/23 at 11:25 am to smash williams
I guess I worded it wrong. I didn’t mean comparing Deion and John Thompson but did the whole country hate John Thompson and Georgetown at that time like people want to see Deion and Colorado fail right now?
Posted on 9/28/23 at 11:28 am to SportsGuyNOLA
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Both are considered racists
Why is Deon a racists? Has he ever publicly stated that he doesn't recruit white players because he wants to give as many blacks a chance as possible at a Georgetown education?
Posted on 9/28/23 at 11:53 am to Yewkindewit
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Send in the goon!
I believe it John Cheney at Temple who said to “send in the goons.”
Posted on 9/28/23 at 2:17 pm to TeamLSU
quote:We know . We know that Bear & Rupp, etc... were just " men of their times" , but those on the receiving end of these bigots, like Thompson & his peers, get an odd amount of criticism. Privileged ex segregationist Jerry Jones & buddy Jimmy Johnson ( both 180 lb linemen) & many others benefitted greatly from minorities being denied access/ opportunities to public schools in which millions paid taxes into. Let's save the vitriol for Thompson.
was Bear Bryant a racist also
Ummm...yes? I mean, does anyone seriously doubt this? I don't think he was egregiously or exceptionally so relative to his time,
Posted on 9/28/23 at 3:06 pm to Hennigan
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Send in the goon!
I believe it John Cheney at Temple who said to “send in the goons.”
This is correct, it was said by John Chaney NOT John Thompson.
Posted on 9/28/23 at 3:14 pm to Byrdybyrd05
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but did the whole country hate John Thompson and Georgetown at that time like people want to see Deion and Colorado fail right now?
Hard to tell back then unless you were at the game with no social media/message boards, but it did seem a large % of the country did actively root against Georgetown. That said, the BIG difference was that Thompson was actually a top coach and his teams usually did the arse kicking for many years. Nobody outside of DC would have likely known Thompson's name or his takes on black/white, etc if they weren't winning.
Back then, you got on TV and highlights and what not by being good, it was earned. Deion is more of a coaching Kardashian, famous for being famous and small wins are amplified ad nauseam. Deion doesnt make me want Colorado to lose...the constant hype and discussion and stunting by idiots in the media does.
Thompson and those Gtown teams were bullies that were better than you and mostly let their play talk for them, there were no "Coach Prime" tendencies there. Apples and oranges.
Posted on 9/28/23 at 3:37 pm to father2sons
quote:lol bless your heart. Deion is barely humble enough to be a head coach.
I see him jumping to the NFL soon as a DB coach.
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