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re: In presser with Marcus Freeman, James Franklin says every team should be in a conference
Posted on 1/8/25 at 4:45 pm to Irish Knuckles
Posted on 1/8/25 at 4:45 pm to Irish Knuckles
Shouldn’t have 18 or even 16 teams in one conference.
Notre Dame had a tougher road than Penn State, but this should be a good game.
I like the format, but Boise State and ASU shouldn’t have gotten byes.
Go to 14 teams, Give Big 12 and ACC 2 teams, SEC and B1G 4 teams, 1 GO5 and 1 Wild Card (most years will be ND).
Notre Dame had a tougher road than Penn State, but this should be a good game.
I like the format, but Boise State and ASU shouldn’t have gotten byes.
Go to 14 teams, Give Big 12 and ACC 2 teams, SEC and B1G 4 teams, 1 GO5 and 1 Wild Card (most years will be ND).
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 4:45 pm to Kinderman
He's right..
Posted on 1/8/25 at 4:53 pm to BZ504
12 is a better number since most of these teams had no business being in a "playoff" anyway. i agree that there should be no conf champ auto byes. take the 4 conf champs, the top g5, 7 at large and rank em 1 - 12 with the top 4 getting byes regardless of conference champions. 8 teams would be so much better with the top 4 getting a campus home game to start it off. a four team bcs would be the best imo.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 6:13 pm to lionward2014
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First off Army is better than any team on Indiana's schedule not named OSU this season. Hell Navy has a case to be the 3rd or 4th best team on that schedule. ND and Indiana both played Purdue. To the point though let's not act like scheduling FIU, Western Illinois, and Charlotte was IU going out and scheduling a tough schedule. People conviently ignore that ND plays 6 ACC games yearly. They then schedule P4 USC and Stanford, Navy, a random P4, and then 2 other G5 schools. That's the same amount of P4 games that schools in a conference play. ND has played 1 FCS school in history, name another P4 team that can say that.
As a Navy and Penn State season ticket holder, it is quite clear you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about when you say Army is better than any team on Indiana’s schedule. Army and Navy across the board don’t have the athletes to compete with the top 2/3rds of the teams in the BIG or SEC on a week to week basis.
The Service Academies don’t have NIL and very, very limited transfers. They are able to compete against bigger, stronger and faster teams to the extent they can because of smoke and mirrors of the triple option. If a team is familiar with it, has superior athletes with good football IQ like Notre Dame, they shut it down easily. Notre Dame is very familiar with Army and Navy.
With Navy, their linemen arrive on campus at around 250 pounds . Any heavier, they don’t pass medical to get in. Then, after their senior year, they have to get back down to meet the body composition standards to commission. No bringing in 320 pound monsters who run a 4.7 40.
Indiana beat Washington and Michigan this year. Are you telling me Army and Navy are better than those teams?
Posted on 1/8/25 at 6:23 pm to BZ504
ND scheduled A&M, FSU, and USC
That could easily be top three top 10 games. It’s impossible to judge “scheduling” after the fact
That could easily be top three top 10 games. It’s impossible to judge “scheduling” after the fact
Posted on 1/8/25 at 6:25 pm to lsupride87
FACT…..
Posted on 1/8/25 at 6:49 pm to SoDakHawk
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oking at the 2025 schedule I see Miami, aTm, Purdue, Arkansas, Boise State, USC, Navy, and their ACC games.
2026 is Wisconsin, Michigan State, Purdue, UNC, Navy, USC, FSU, Miami, Cuse, SMU. That's not a schedule that is ducking opponents.
Never could understand how Notre Dame gets a rap of ducking quality opponents. That's just not true and never has been in their history.
They do a great job scheduling P4 opponents they can beat…need more beef and not just teams who are P4 just so they can say they’re P4
Posted on 1/8/25 at 6:57 pm to lsupride87
ND doesn't schedule SC, its just on the schedule.
ND despite their Independence and history of barnstorming has a pretty reliable and stable schedule.
They are always gonna play:
USC
Army
Navy
Stanford
Purdue
Throw in some ACC teams and some big powers at-large and that's their schedule.
ND despite their Independence and history of barnstorming has a pretty reliable and stable schedule.
They are always gonna play:
USC
Army
Navy
Stanford
Purdue
Throw in some ACC teams and some big powers at-large and that's their schedule.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 7:00 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
They do not always play Army. This year's meeting was their first in almost a decade.
They need to bring the Sparty rivalry back to an annual game and not this occasional thing they do currently. Used to be one of my favorite games of the year to watch.
They need to bring the Sparty rivalry back to an annual game and not this occasional thing they do currently. Used to be one of my favorite games of the year to watch.
This post was edited on 1/8/25 at 7:06 pm
Posted on 1/8/25 at 7:03 pm to BradBallard
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Indiana beat Washington and Michigan this year. Are you telling me Army and Navy are better than those teams?
In 2024, I’m taking Army over Washington 100%, and a healthy Daily I think it’s a toss up with Michigan. Probably would handicap it Michigan -2.5. Probably not taking Navy outright over Michigan, but I would bet them outright against Washington.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:07 pm to Kinderman
Is Franklin a socialist?
Everyone and everything must be the same across the board! So much for free market.
If Penn St could make more money and survive on their own, I am sure they would be independent.
Everyone and everything must be the same across the board! So much for free market.
If Penn St could make more money and survive on their own, I am sure they would be independent.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:15 pm to bayoujd
Penn St joined the B10 early 90s.
Man time flies
Man time flies
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:55 pm to WaterLink
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They do not always play Army. This year's meeting was their first in almost a decade.
Well that's a Mandela Effect moment for me. I suppose Navy is the lone constant despite remembering otherwise.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 4:25 am to lionward2014
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In 2024, I’m taking Army over Washington 100%, and a healthy Daily I think it’s a toss up with Michigan. Probably would handicap it Michigan -2.5. Probably not taking Navy outright over Michigan, but I would bet them outright against Washington.
Navy was better than Army this year. Navy dog walked them in the Army Navy game. Army lucked out by having an easier conference schedule by missing Memphis and S.Florida in the AAC.
Navy’s QB Horvath was better than Army’s Daily.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 7:38 am to lsupride87
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ND scheduled A&M, FSU, and USC That could easily be top three top 10 games. It’s impossible to judge “scheduling” after the fact
Gotta remember Miami (FL) was scheduled and the Hurricanes dropped
them last minute leaving them scrambling to schedule someone last minute (Army).
I can’t fault anyone’s schedule consisting of:
Texas A&M
Miami
USC
Florida State
Louisville
Posted on 1/9/25 at 7:42 am to Kinderman
The Power 4 need to do their own thing and only play each other.
Notre Dame can join or get left behind
Notre Dame can join or get left behind
Posted on 1/9/25 at 8:53 am to Kinderman
why would ND be motivated to join a Conference when they can make their own football game schedule and practically guarantee themselves a good shot at being in the CFB Playoffs every season?
Who will force ND into a Conference?
Go Irish.
Don't hate the Playa. Hate the Game.
Who will force ND into a Conference?
Go Irish.
Don't hate the Playa. Hate the Game.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 9:45 am to GeauxPanthers2
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However, I don't think you will see the SEC dying to add a 9th
They'll add it once the new contract negotiations are starting and we get more money for it.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 9:48 am to Champagne
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Who will force ND into a Conference?
eventually the conferences and tv. ND isn't the draw they were last century. Their games are rarely in the top for tv ratings because of who they play and competing against the big SEC and Big 10 games each week. USC is the only consistent big draw for tv ratings for them.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:23 am to Topwater Trout
If you looked at the ratings, you'd know you're incorrect. Look at the top rated games of last 10-15 years, half of those will be Notre Dame games.
ND plays the SEC when they're willing, playing Georgia, Tennessee, A&M in the last 5 years, adding home/home series with Arkansas starting next year, Alabama in 2026, in addition to hosting A&M on campus in 2025. Plus playing Miami, Clemson, FSU, Louisville and UNC as consistently ranked teams, and traditional rivals (USC, Navy/Army, Michigan State, Purdue).
ND plays a tougher schedule than the SEC cake walk with buy games, Penn State couldn't hack it as an independent and had to join the labor union (conference) to survive. If Penn State or any other team could hang as an independent, they would but none can. Penn State, Miami, FSU used to be independent too but they all caved to the socialism of conference affiliation.
It's not ND's fault if the top teams on their schedule decided to stink this year. SEC teams don't play the same level of difficulty as ND does every year. That's why ND has market leading apparel, sponsorship and TV deals because of those consistently high ratings.
No one would watch an SEC or Big Ten game if ESPN didn't overpay for the rights and force it on fans' TVs. Mississippi State/Kentucky or Rutgers/Maryland aren't worth anything and ESPN is circling the drain.
ND plays the SEC when they're willing, playing Georgia, Tennessee, A&M in the last 5 years, adding home/home series with Arkansas starting next year, Alabama in 2026, in addition to hosting A&M on campus in 2025. Plus playing Miami, Clemson, FSU, Louisville and UNC as consistently ranked teams, and traditional rivals (USC, Navy/Army, Michigan State, Purdue).
ND plays a tougher schedule than the SEC cake walk with buy games, Penn State couldn't hack it as an independent and had to join the labor union (conference) to survive. If Penn State or any other team could hang as an independent, they would but none can. Penn State, Miami, FSU used to be independent too but they all caved to the socialism of conference affiliation.
It's not ND's fault if the top teams on their schedule decided to stink this year. SEC teams don't play the same level of difficulty as ND does every year. That's why ND has market leading apparel, sponsorship and TV deals because of those consistently high ratings.
No one would watch an SEC or Big Ten game if ESPN didn't overpay for the rights and force it on fans' TVs. Mississippi State/Kentucky or Rutgers/Maryland aren't worth anything and ESPN is circling the drain.
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