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In presser with Marcus Freeman, James Franklin says every team should be in a conference
Posted on 1/8/25 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 1/8/25 at 1:43 pm
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If tweet fails to load, click here. He also says schedules should be uniform across CFB (number of conference games, conference championships, etc.).
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 1:56 pm to Kinderman
I agree with Franklin. There needs to be some standardization across the NCAAF.
If that means everyone has a conference and everyone has 9 conference games, and another game against P4 competition, so be it.
But there absolutely needs to be some standards. Notre Dame getting a pass because they're Notre Dame is BS. And they're objectively good this year.
If that means everyone has a conference and everyone has 9 conference games, and another game against P4 competition, so be it.
But there absolutely needs to be some standards. Notre Dame getting a pass because they're Notre Dame is BS. And they're objectively good this year.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 1:59 pm to Kinderman
I do agree with Franklin. In a perfect world, this would happen.
However, I don't think you will see the SEC dying to add a 9th or 10th conference game after having their three 9-3 teams left out of the playoff. There's a big difference between SMU adding a game at NC State to their schedule and Bama adding a game at Florida to their schedule.
For reference, NC State and Florida were both the 10th best teams in their respective conferences this season.
However, I don't think you will see the SEC dying to add a 9th or 10th conference game after having their three 9-3 teams left out of the playoff. There's a big difference between SMU adding a game at NC State to their schedule and Bama adding a game at Florida to their schedule.
For reference, NC State and Florida were both the 10th best teams in their respective conferences this season.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 2:09 pm to Kinderman
When conferences have close to 20 teams and multiple undefeated teams who meet in the last few weeks of the season, what measuring stick can a conference record even provide anymore? I don't agree ND needs a conference. Conferences are just money collectors, they don't give any meaningful information about how good a team is.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 2:16 pm to RoyalAir
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There needs to be some standardization across the NCAAF.
No, no no.....I like that CFB was unique..... Look how bad the Playoffs have been now that we've made it Corporate NFL-Lite.
Never ruffled my feathers that Notre Dame was Independent.....
That's history, the story of CFB....the more we coookie-cutter this sport, the less interesting it becomes.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 2:17 pm to Kinderman
Eh, Notre Dame played a harder schedule than, let's say, Indiana this year. Even saying all conferences need to have the same number of games, etc., doesn't equalize things at all.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 2:20 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Agreed. Standardization is never gonna mean anything for a sport with 140 teams and only 12 games. We will always be guessing how good teams are going to be and perform in a playoff setting. Too many factors at play. Honestly BCS or mythical NCs were just as good as this convoluted 12 team guessing game we have today.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 2:30 pm to Kinderman
What an original thought James!
Penn State's schedule was, IMO, softer than ND's. Illinois is about equivilant to Army or TAMU for ND. Their strength of schedule got a bump playing, and losing, to OSU and Oregon.
I hope Freeman runs the score up on this overrated loser.
Penn State's schedule was, IMO, softer than ND's. Illinois is about equivilant to Army or TAMU for ND. Their strength of schedule got a bump playing, and losing, to OSU and Oregon.
I hope Freeman runs the score up on this overrated loser.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 2:35 pm to Bham Bammer
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Eh, Notre Dame played a harder schedule than, let's say, Indiana this year. Even saying all conferences need to have the same number of games, etc., doesn't equalize things at all.
The issue is Indiana doesn't get to handpick their schedule. Notre Dame does. Its possible for Indiana to have to play the top 4 teams in the B1G while ND gets to plat Ball State, Army, Navy, and Purdue.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 2:37 pm to Kinderman
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 2:37 pm to Kinderman
Big Game James about to beat that Irish arse?
Posted on 1/8/25 at 2:37 pm to ronricks
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while ND gets to plat Ball State, Army, Navy, and Purdue.
That’s why we have a committee
Posted on 1/8/25 at 2:47 pm to ronricks
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Its possible for Indiana to have to play the top 4 teams in the B1G while ND gets to plat Ball State, Army, Navy, and Purdue.
First off Army is better than any team on Indiana's schedule not named OSU this season. Hell Navy has a case to be the 3rd or 4th best team on that schedule. ND and Indiana both played Purdue.
To the point though let's not act like scheduling FIU, Western Illinois, and Charlotte was IU going out and scheduling a tough schedule.
People conviently ignore that ND plays 6 ACC games yearly. They then schedule P4 USC and Stanford, Navy, a random P4, and then 2 other G5 schools. That's the same amount of P4 games that schools in a conference play. ND has played 1 FCS school in history, name another P4 team that can say that.
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 2:51 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:. Preach.
No, no no.....I like that CFB was unique..... Look how bad the Playoffs have been now that we've made it Corporate NFL-Lite. Never ruffled my feathers that Notre Dame was Independent..... That's history, the story of CFB....the more we coookie-cutter this sport, the less interesting it becomes.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 3:21 pm to Bham Bammer
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Eh, Notre Dame played a harder schedule than, let's say, Indiana this year. Even saying all conferences need to have the same number of games, etc., doesn't equalize things at all.
Sure, but it's not "fair" that a "good" team in a conference has to play in a conference championship game that could add another loss to their record, when a team like Notre Dame would almost certainly be in a conference championship game if they were in a conference and they get to avoid that.
Now, the committee sorta alleviated that concern by not really punishing teams that lost in their championship game this season, but many people were not in agreement with their decision to do that.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 3:34 pm to Kinderman
Just hit the reset button back to about 2005.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 3:44 pm to Kinderman
Idk if I can say ND needs a conference while the Big 10 and SEC have so many teams that any given year we have teams in those conferences with unbelievably weak schedules. The ACC is pure shite too. Hell it’s all shite.
If we went back to more balanced, 10-12 team conferences, then sure.
If we went back to more balanced, 10-12 team conferences, then sure.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 3:47 pm to ReauxlTide222
Was fond of the PAC10 round-robin everybody plays everyone...no debate, no Conference Championship game....it made sense,,so of course they had to get rid of it....which led to expansion which led to exodus.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 3:59 pm to ronricks
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Its possible for Indiana to have to play the top 4 teams in the B1G while ND gets to plat Ball State, Army, Navy, and Purdue.
Turns out Army and Navy were pretty solid teams this year. Never understood the complaints about Notre Dame being independent and how that somehow makes their schedule "easy". The same school that goes out of their way to schedule USC every year, scheduled aTm this year, and OSU last season.
Looking at the 2025 schedule I see Miami, aTm, Purdue, Arkansas, Boise State, USC, Navy, and their ACC games.
2026 is Wisconsin, Michigan State, Purdue, UNC, Navy, USC, FSU, Miami, Cuse, SMU. That's not a schedule that is ducking opponents.
Never could understand how Notre Dame gets a rap of ducking quality opponents. That's just not true and never has been in their history.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 4:30 pm to Mason Dixon Swine
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When conferences have close to 20 teams and multiple undefeated teams who meet in the last few weeks of the season, what measuring stick can a conference record even provide anymore? I don't agree ND needs a conference. Conferences are just money collectors, they don't give any meaningful information about how good a team is.
agree. ND doesn't need a conference. they played 8 p4 games that were scheduled way ahead in advance and also played army and navy who were solid teams this year.
the sec wanted to add all those teams and crow about being the best conference while everyone is beating up on each other. sounds like the price of doing business to me. ND doesn't need to do that to bring in money.
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