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re: If Ken Griffey Jr. doesn't get hurt where does he rank all time?
Posted on 7/16/13 at 5:13 am to The Boat
Posted on 7/16/13 at 5:13 am to The Boat
Not a mistake, had he remained healthy....
At 30 (and after several injuries already) he put up a .271/.387/.556 season with 40 home runs in 145 games. Injuries had already begun to take a toll on his body at that point.
The next time he played over 140 games he was 37 and he hit .277/.372/.496 with 30 home runs in 144 games.
At 30 (and after several injuries already) he put up a .271/.387/.556 season with 40 home runs in 145 games. Injuries had already begun to take a toll on his body at that point.
The next time he played over 140 games he was 37 and he hit .277/.372/.496 with 30 home runs in 144 games.
Posted on 7/16/13 at 6:32 am to VerlanderBEAST
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Still higher than Griffey
Can't say this. Too bad we will never know......
Posted on 7/16/13 at 6:33 am to ReauxlTide222
i really don't go by injuries when i rank the all time best.
for example, i will say till the day i die that bo jackson was the best running back ever.
now, back to jr....i'd rank him in the top ten easily.
for example, i will say till the day i die that bo jackson was the best running back ever.
now, back to jr....i'd rank him in the top ten easily.
This post was edited on 7/16/13 at 8:05 am
Posted on 7/16/13 at 9:40 am to VerlanderBEAST
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He still would not be better than Bonds, Henderson, A-rod, Schmidt or Pujols
Henderson and Schmidt are a joke being compared to Griffey.
I still take Griffey over Arod
Toss Ups between Bonds and Pujols
Note: Remember this is about the end of career stats
Posted on 7/16/13 at 11:59 am to A2
ruth is all time #1 no doubt.
from what i remember, during the years griffey was in seattle, he was the better baseball player than barry bonds. had his career continued on the same trajectory(minus injuries and rapid decline as soon as he went to cincinatti) i believe Griffey would be the 2nd best player of all time.
Where he stands now its really tough to say, I suppose somewhere in the top 20. Griffey is baseball's grant hill, although griffey>>>grant hill.
from what i remember, during the years griffey was in seattle, he was the better baseball player than barry bonds. had his career continued on the same trajectory(minus injuries and rapid decline as soon as he went to cincinatti) i believe Griffey would be the 2nd best player of all time.
Where he stands now its really tough to say, I suppose somewhere in the top 20. Griffey is baseball's grant hill, although griffey>>>grant hill.
Posted on 7/16/13 at 3:15 pm to Poodlebrain
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Pretty swings don't mean shite. The goal of swinging is to make contact. Bonds was much better than Griffey when it came to making contact. Bonds struck out much less frequently than Griffey, and he drew walks much more frequently. Those qualities are important for producing runs which is the ultimate goal of all batters.
He drew more walks because pitchers and managers got so scared of his steroid swing that they just walked him instead of showing some nads and pitching to him.
Posted on 7/16/13 at 6:35 pm to Interception
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Henderson and Schmidt are a joke being compared to Griffey.
I still take Griffey over Arod
Toss Ups between Bonds and Pujols
Note: Remember this is about the end of career stats
You know dick about baseball.
Bonds, Henderson, A-rod, Schmidt and Pujols are better players than Griffey was or could of been without injuries.
Posted on 7/16/13 at 8:28 pm to tduecen
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Griffey has the All-Time best video game
Absolutely! The booklet that showed the history of the franchises was fantastic
Posted on 7/16/13 at 8:37 pm to tduecen
Yeah, the Reds were a playoff team (one game playoff albeit) in '99 and had some good pieces in place. Dunn and Kearns were about to come up and man the corners. It was a good time for him to go there, but he just broke down.
Posted on 7/16/13 at 9:17 pm to DURANTULA
quote:Even if you take away the 688 intentional walks Bonds still drew over 500 more walks than Griffey, and Bonds was hit by pitch more often than Griffey. Those represented opportunities to score runs, and not surprisingly, Bonds scored significantly more runs than Griffey. How do you account for the fewer strikeouts by Bonds? When he was pitched to, Bonds was better at making contact. And Bonds grounded into fewer double plays than Griffey as well. In short, Griffey was better than Bonds at killing rallies.
He drew more walks because pitchers and managers got so scared of his steroid swing that they just walked him instead of showing some nads and pitching to him.
Posted on 7/16/13 at 9:21 pm to Poodlebrain
There's no doubt that Bonds was better than Griffey. Not everyone perceived it because one was a media darling who was well marketed and the other was a pariah.
I still can't get over Bonds' .609 OBP in 2004. That's sick, steroids and all. Dude got on base two/three times every game.
I still can't get over Bonds' .609 OBP in 2004. That's sick, steroids and all. Dude got on base two/three times every game.
Posted on 7/16/13 at 9:28 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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1.Bonds
2.A-Rod
3.Henderson
4.Schmidt
5.Pujols
Posted on 7/16/13 at 9:36 pm to mattz1122
Dunn was a terrible influence on Griffey. His fatness and love of beer rubbed off on Jr.
Posted on 7/16/13 at 9:37 pm to Pintail
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3.Henderson
I feel like a complete idiot...for not knowing who the hell he's talking about here.
Posted on 7/16/13 at 9:43 pm to 632627
What? Come on young man. Everybody knows the Georgia peach himself Mr Tyrus Raymond Cobb is the greatest ball player of all time.
Highest career batting avg in history at .367
4,189 career hits
OBP of .433
1,938 RBIs
Won 12 batting titles including 9 in a row
54 steals of home. Most all time
Hit over .400 three seasons. Most all time
2,245 runs scored
4th all time in stolen bases with 892
Highest career batting avg in history at .367
4,189 career hits
OBP of .433
1,938 RBIs
Won 12 batting titles including 9 in a row
54 steals of home. Most all time
Hit over .400 three seasons. Most all time
2,245 runs scored
4th all time in stolen bases with 892
Posted on 7/16/13 at 9:50 pm to Finkle is Einhorn
This is an honest question. How many bags would he steal in today's game?
Posted on 7/16/13 at 9:59 pm to ReauxlTide222
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I feel like a complete idiot...for not knowing who the hell he's talking about here.
I'm guessing he's talking about Rickey Henderson.
Posted on 7/16/13 at 10:27 pm to BigBrod81
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I'm guessing he's talking about Rickey Henderson.
I was afraid of this
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