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re: If Floyd Mayweather retired tomorrow
Posted on 5/9/13 at 12:48 pm to VerlanderBEAST
Posted on 5/9/13 at 12:48 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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Why would they fight under 147 and 160? You do know that 159 and 146 are not weight classes?
Do you know how weight classes work? When you fight at 147, you can't be over that number. So 99% of the time guys weigh in at 146 and some change.
I used to box. When my weight class was weight X, would I walk into the weight in weighing weight X right on the button? Or might I walk in weighing x-.5?
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 12:49 pm to bobbyray21
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I've addressed it three times already. Which is two too many.
1. Mayweather puts drug testing requirements in the contracts for all his fights.
2. All other opponents have acquiesced
3. Except Pacquiao
The above is the relevant stuff. Try to stay focused.
To play your little game, let me google that for you. I just googled "mayweather drug test in contracts" and those are the results. Not only are there no links on the first page that back up your claim that he "demands Olympic style testing for all his fights," but it also doesn't mention anything about him having drug testing in his contracts for "all his fights." And on top of that, half the links are articles about Mayweather testing positive for PEDs anyway.
So you can say that your very specific list of bullshite, that you've whittled down from your original stance to try to deflect your obvious ignorance of Mayweather and his testing demands, is "the relevant stuff" and that I should "try to stay focused," but in actuality you want me to only focus on the parts of your argument that you think are right. Which even those aren't correct based on a simple google search. Feel free to point me in the direction of links that back your claim up though, as I'm not saying you're definitely wrong, but you're spouting off a whole bunch of bullshite in this thread and trying to get all cute when people accuse you of having no basis for it.
I'm sure you'll come up with something (that you think is) witty as a response to this, but see if you can manage to stay focused on my points in this thread. Because as it stands now, even if you had a legitimate point in thie thread (which I think is arguable that you did), the way you're arguing your bullshite makes it hard for people to take you seriously.
This post was edited on 5/9/13 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 5/9/13 at 12:54 pm to bobbyray21
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If there were a way we could go head to head on boxing knowledge. I'd put money on myself.
I'm a fan of boxing. I'm not a fan of the present sate of the heavyweight division. I watched the lewis fight not the Byrd fight. If he tore his rotator cuff, he should have switched to southpaw and started throwing jabs. Seriously. To retire in the 9th round up on points == pussy move.
Broken hand =/= Torn rotator cuff
You're a hardcore Floyd Mayweather fan not a hardcore boxing fan. That is fine but don't pretend to be a great boxing fan
Posted on 5/9/13 at 1:00 pm to CocomoLSU
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To play your little game, let me google that for you. I just googled "mayweather drug test in contracts" and those are the results. Not only are there no links on the first page that back up your claim that he "demands Olympic style testing for all his fights," but it also doesn't mention anything about him having drug testing in his contracts for "all his fights." And on top of that, half the links are articles about Mayweather testing positive for PEDs anyway.
So you can say that your very specific list of bullshite, that you've whittled down from your original stance to try to deflect your obvious ignorance of Mayweather and his testing demands, is "the relevant stuff" and that I should "try to stay focused," but in actuality you want me to only focus on the parts of your argument that you think are right. Which even those aren't correct based on a simple google search. Feel free to point me in the direction of links that back your claim up though, as I'm not saying you're definitely wrong, but you're spouting off a whole bunch of bullshite in this thread and trying to get all cute when people accuse you of having no basis for it.
I'm sure you'll come up with something (that you think is) witty as a response to this, but see if you can manage to stay focused on my points in this thread. Because as it stands now, even if you had a legitimate point in thie thread (which I think is arguable that you did), the way you're arguing your bullshite makes it hard for people to take you seriously.
Learn to do better research.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 1:01 pm to bobbyray21
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Have you never seen Mayweather box?
How often have you seen him box somebody worth a shite in their prime that actually matched up well against his weaknesses vs him going after past their prime fighters who have blatant tendencies that favor Mayweather's style?
Posted on 5/9/13 at 1:02 pm to bobbyray21
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Do you know how weight classes work? When you fight at 147, you can't be over that number. So 99% of the time guys weigh in at 146 and some change.
I used to box. When my weight class was weight X, would I walk into the weight in weighing weight X right on the button? Or might I walk in weighing x-.5?
Just about all champion level guys weight in at the limit.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 1:02 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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You're a hardcore Floyd Mayweather fan not a hardcore boxing fan. That is fine but don't pretend to be a great boxing fan
Right, because guys that only follow Floyd Mayweather can rattle off that Clay got knocked down in the fourth round by Henry Cooper. Or hat Jersey Joe Walcott was 38 when he fought Marciano and knocked him down in the second round, only to get knocked out in the 13th.
Clearly.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 1:03 pm to bobbyray21
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Learn to do better research.
Says the guy that said this.
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The guy has demanded Olympic style drug testing for all of his fights
Posted on 5/9/13 at 1:07 pm to bobbyray21
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Learn to do better research.
:golfclap:
Thanks for proving me right.
And to think, you looking like a complete fricking idiot could've been avoided had you simply not made dumbass statements under the false pretense that you know anything about Floyd Mayweather and his drug testing requirements.
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Learn
Indeed.
At least we'll always have Lacey Duvall.
This post was edited on 5/9/13 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 5/9/13 at 1:28 pm to Fun Bunch
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Sugar Ray Robinson, Ali, Roy Jones were all better fighters in their prime.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 1:57 pm to bobbyray21
You consistently tell people in here not to use resumes to compare, but then you consistently use resumes to discredit other fighters. You say you look at results from these older guys when they might have gotten knocked down or lost to a bad fighters, but what you are really looking at is a resume.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 2:29 pm to CocomoLSU
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CocomoLSU
I still can't believe people still argue with bobbyray. He backs up 1/20th of what he says.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 2:36 pm to CocomoLSU
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To play your little game, let me google that for you. I just googled "mayweather drug test in contracts" and those are the results. Not only are there no links on the first page that back up your claim that he "demands Olympic style testing for all his fights," but it also doesn't mention anything about him having drug testing in his contracts for "all his fights." And on top of that, half the links are articles about Mayweather testing positive for PEDs anyway.
So you can say that your very specific list of bullshite, that you've whittled down from your original stance to try to deflect your obvious ignorance of Mayweather and his testing demands, is "the relevant stuff" and that I should "try to stay focused," but in actuality you want me to only focus on the parts of your argument that you think are right. Which even those aren't correct based on a simple google search. Feel free to point me in the direction of links that back your claim up though, as I'm not saying you're definitely wrong, but you're spouting off a whole bunch of bull shite in this thread and trying to get all cute when people accuse you of having no basis for it.
I'm sure you'll come up with something (that you think is) witty as a response to this, but see if you can manage to stay focused on my points in this thread. Because as it stands now, even if you had a legitimate point in thie thread (which I think is arguable that you did), the way you're arguing your bull shite makes it hard for people to take you seriously.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 2:39 pm to TheOcean
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TheOcean
But it at least is entertaining.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 2:42 pm to bobbyray21
quote:He wouldn't have looked so good had he fought Pacquiao in his prime.
It's about how good he is, not who he has had to beat.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 3:01 pm to GatorsGators
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He wouldn't have looked so good had he fought Pacquiao in his prime.
Not this shite again. Let me guess, he ducked Pacman? Amirite? It has been said many times by various folks, most recently by ODH, that not making the fight was all on Pacman.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 3:02 pm to bobbyray21
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His resume doesn't actually have any bearing on whether he is the best pound for pound fighter. You realize this, yes?
It's about how good he is, not who he has had to beat.
Wow...you're an arrogant little boy.
You're so adept at judging just pure boxing talent - quality of opponents don't matter to you...you can compare all the great fighters simply by your analytic skill judging their skill.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 3:25 pm to nofear67
I never said whose fault it was that the two never fought. I still think Pacquiao would've destroyed Mayweather had the fight happened, though.
Mayweather is a good fighter, but he's even better at picking who he's fighting against.
Mayweather is a good fighter, but he's even better at picking who he's fighting against.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 4:22 pm to F machine
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You consistently tell people in here not to use resumes to compare, but then you consistently use resumes to discredit other fighters. You say you look at results from these older guys when they might have gotten knocked down or lost to a bad fighters, but what you are really looking at is a resume.
How many times do I have to go through this?
When I say I'm not making resume comparisons, what I'm doing is pre-empting a potential response of "No, Sugar Ray Robinson is better. Call me when Floyd Mayweather wins 127 of his first 128 fights and beats Jake Lamotta 5 times". You can't just line up guy's resumes and compare them like that. It doesn't accomplish anything.
But for God's sakes don't throw the resumes away. A fighter's resume -- his various accomplishments throughout his career -- are a means to the end of determining who the best P4P fighter is.
It focuses the analysis when you try to answer the question of which fighter was the best at their best. But you can't answer the question without referring to their careers.
Jesus tittyfricking Christ.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 4:25 pm to Zamoro10
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Wow...you're an arrogant little boy.
You're so adept at judging just pure boxing talent - quality of opponents don't matter to you...you can compare all the great fighters simply by your analytic skill judging their skill.
Who the hell is this a-hole?
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