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re: If Floyd Mayweather retired tomorrow

Posted on 5/9/13 at 12:22 pm to
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
9490 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 12:22 pm to
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An article from 3 months ago?

I have no dog in this race, but if you're gonna try to find sources that back up a ridiculous claim like him "demanding Olympic style testing for ALL of his fights," you might want to at least go back a little further than three and a half months ago.


Or it might not matter in the least bit.


1. Did Mayweather demand of Pacquiao compliance with a certain drug testing protocol?

2. Did Pacquiao go along with that?

Try to stay on topic.
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
9490 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 12:23 pm to
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I didn't read the first three pages, but why does the "best pound for pound ____" always have to be a small guy? Can't a heavyweight fighter, 7'6" center, or 250 lb. running back be the best pound for pound guy in his sport?



1960s Ali is in my top 5.
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
40491 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 12:24 pm to
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I'm calling him the best pound-for-pound fighter of all time


Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19353 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 12:25 pm to
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I disagree with this statement and I don't know how you arrive at it. On what basis is Vitali a great P4P fighter?

Eyeball test? No.
Ring dominance? No.

I mean, Klitschko lost to Chris Byrd, who I'm fairly certain I could go the distance with. Simply stated, there is nothing about Vitali that screams greatness, much less historical greatness


lol Ring dominance? Vitali is bjectively the most dominant champion in the history of boxing

The fact that you even mention Chris Byrd tells me you are quite clueless. Vitali completely dominated Byrd and lost due to injury(torn rotator cuff)

Nothing stands out? Dude you are proving yourself as he typical Floyd Mayweather nuthugger who knows very little about boxing.

-Only heavyweight champion in the history of boxing who has never been knocked down

-91% KO ratio greatest of any heavyweight champion ever

-Never been down on the cards at any point in any fight... yes you heard that right.

-Never even lost 3 rounds... let me repeat that Vitali Klitschko has never lost 3 rounds in a fight.
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
9490 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 12:26 pm to
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I have no dog in this race, but if you're gonna try to find sources that back up a ridiculous claim like him "demanding Olympic style testing for ALL of his fights," you might want to at least go back a little further than three and a half months ago.


As if this wasn't common knowldge: LINK
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
9490 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 12:28 pm to
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lol Ring dominance? Vitali is bjectively the most dominant champion in the history of boxing

The fact that you even mention Chris Byrd tells me you are quite clueless. Vitali completely dominated Byrd and lost due to injury(torn rotator cuff)

Nothing stands out? Dude you are proving yourself as he typical Floyd Mayweather nuthugger who knows very little about boxing.

-Only heavyweight champion in the history of boxing who has never been knocked down

-91% KO ratio greatest of any heavyweight champion ever

-Never been down on the cards at any point in any fight... yes you heard that right.

-Never even lost 3 rounds... let me repeat that Vitali Klitschko has never lost 3 rounds in a fight.




Lost to Chris Byrd and Lennox Lewis.
Impresses nobody even as he fights abject scrubs.

Now go run along.

Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19353 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 12:28 pm to
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ETA: Mayweather wouldn't beat Leonard at 159. But I like his chances at 146.


You mean 160 and 147 right?
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
9490 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 12:29 pm to
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You mean 160 and 147 right?


Under both, yes.
Posted by Interception
Member since Nov 2008
11089 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 12:30 pm to
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And, yes, even better than Ray Robinson




No freaking way
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
156802 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 12:31 pm to
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Try to stay on topic.

I responded to a statement made by you in a discussion you were having in a thread you started, smartass.
quote:

As if this wasn't common knowldge: LINK

That article is about one fight: the Pac fight.

You still have yet to remotely back your claim that he demands Olympic style testing for all his fights (and those are your fricking words, not mine).
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
9490 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 12:32 pm to
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lol Ring dominance? Vitali is bjectively the most dominant champion in the history of boxing


I can't believe you wrote this. My mind is blown.
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
27168 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 12:33 pm to
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Did Pacquiao go along with that?


He has on numerous occasions agreed only to have Mayweather duck and dodge as usual.

LINK

I am not saying he is not a great fighter, but his consistent behavior of going out of his way to give the impression that he wants a fight while doing everything he can to avoid it, is a stain.
This post was edited on 5/9/13 at 12:35 pm
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19353 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 12:35 pm to
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Lost to Chris Byrd and Lennox Lewis.
Impresses nobody even as he fights abject scrubs.


Something tells me you haven't actually watched those fights. He was dominating both of those fights and lost because of freak injuries(torn rotator cuff and mangled eye).

you are not a hardcore boxing fan you're a hardcore Floyd fan
This post was edited on 5/9/13 at 12:39 pm
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
9490 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 12:36 pm to
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You still have yet to remotely back your claim that he demands Olympic style testing for all his fights (and those are your fricking words, not mine).


I've addressed it three times already. Which is two too many.

1. Mayweather puts drug testing requirements in the contracts for all his fights.
2. All other opponents have acquiesced
3. Except Pacquiao

The above is the relevant stuff. Try to stay focused.
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
27168 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 12:37 pm to
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Mayweather puts drug testing requirements in the contracts for all his fights.


So not Olympic style testing?
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19353 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 12:37 pm to
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Under both, yes.


Why would they fight under 147 and 160? You do know that 159 and 146 are not weight classes?
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19353 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 12:38 pm to
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I can't believe you wrote this. My mind is blown.


I am sure it is since you don't know much about boxing outside of Floyd Mayweather
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
9490 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 12:42 pm to
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Something tells me you haven't actually watched those fights. He was dominating both of those fights and lost because of freak injuries(torn rotator cuff and mangled eye).

you are not a boxing fan you're a Floyd fan


If there were a way we could go head to head on boxing knowledge. I'd put money on myself.

I'm a fan of boxing. I'm not a fan of the present sate of the heavyweight division. I watched the lewis fight not the Byrd fight. If he tore his rotator cuff, he should have switched to southpaw and started throwing jabs. Seriously. To retire in the 9th round up on points == pussy move.
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
9490 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 12:43 pm to
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I am sure it is since you don't know much about boxing outside of Floyd Mayweather


Blake Griffin is the best fast break player in the history of the NBA, right?
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
27168 posts
Posted on 5/9/13 at 12:45 pm to
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I'd put money on myself.


Yeah, this here screams Mayweather fan.

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