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re: If Floyd Mayweather retired tomorrow
Posted on 5/9/13 at 4:28 pm to bobbyray21
Posted on 5/9/13 at 4:28 pm to bobbyray21
Also, why is Roy Jones getting a free pass here? He fought Bernard Hopkins and....
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 4:30 pm to bobbyray21
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Also, why is Roy Jones getting a free pass here? He fought Bernard Hopkins and....
So this is ALL about A fighter that is undefeated.....
OK I give you...
ROCKY MARCIANO>.........
/THREAD.............
Posted on 5/9/13 at 4:34 pm to Zamoro10
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You're so adept at judging just pure boxing talent - quality of opponents don't matter to you...you can compare all the great fighters simply by your analytic skill judging their skill.
Guerrero
De la Hoya
Zab Judah
Ricky Hatton
Marquez
Jose Luis Castillo....twice
Miguel Cotto
Arturo Gatti
Diego Corrales
Who are the other worthy contenders (besides Pac) that he didn't fight?
Take as much time as you need. And say hello to your mother for me.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 4:36 pm to dukke v
quote:
So this is ALL about A fighter that is undefeated.....
OK I give you...
ROCKY MARCIANO>.........
/THREAD.............
You badly missed my point.
He beat Hopkins early in his career. Before he started getting knocked out left and right, the only knock on Jones was that the only decent fighter he had beaten was Hopkins.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 4:38 pm to bobbyray21
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He beat Hopkins early in his career. Before he started getting knocked out left and right, the only knock on Jones was that the only decent fighter he had beaten was Hopkins
Ok Roy Jones would DESTROY mayweather.....
And DO NOT give me that different weight class bullshite......
Posted on 5/9/13 at 4:39 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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Just about all champion level guys weight in at the limit.
Or a pound below.
Mayweather and Robert Guerrero reached their welterweight limit at Friday's weigh-ins ahead of their bout on Saturday evening. Mayweather tipped the scales at 146 pounds
Posted on 5/9/13 at 4:39 pm to bobbyray21
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best pound-for-pound fighter of all time
Agreed.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 4:41 pm to bobbyray21
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Guerrero De la Hoya Zab Judah Ricky Hatton Marquez Jose Luis Castillo....twice Miguel Cotto Arturo Gatti Diego Corrales
REALLY???? These guys SUCK.... Except one.......
This post was edited on 5/9/13 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 5/9/13 at 4:43 pm to dukke v
quote:
Ok Roy Jones would DESTROY mayweather.....
And DO NOT give me that different weight class bullshite......
Different weight class bullshite? I'm not following.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 4:44 pm to dukke v
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REALLY???? These guys SUCK.... Except one.......
They're pretty far from sucking.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 4:45 pm to bobbyray21
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Different weight class bullshite? I'm not following.
I said before that Sugar Ray Leonard would destroy Mayweather and you punked out with the Weightclass bullshite......... YOU have said PFP and Ray was better than Mayweather. ALL across the board........
Posted on 5/9/13 at 4:52 pm to dukke v
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I said before that Sugar Ray Leonard would destroy Mayweather and you punked out with the Weightclass bullshite......... YOU have said PFP and Ray was better than Mayweather. ALL across the board........
Let me be more clear.
1. Mayweather isn't a middleweight. He would never fight as a middleweight.
2. Ray was the welterweight champion for a time. He didn't enjoy fighting that light, and so he moved up and fought heavier.
3. But if Ray agreed to fight Mayweather at 147, then we got ourselves a fight. And Mayweather wins.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 4:53 pm to dukke v
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I said before that Sugar Ray Leonard would destroy Mayweather and you punked out with the Weightclass bullshite......... YOU have said PFP and Ray was better than Mayweather. ALL across the board........
But Jones is way bigger than Mayweather. They would never fight.
This is why the term "pound for pound" is used.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 4:53 pm to bobbyray21
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Also, why is Roy Jones getting a free pass here? He fought Bernard Hopkins and....
James Toney
Virgil Hill
Thulani Malinga
Reggie Johnson
etc etc etc
Roy has one of the deepest resumes in modern boxing.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 4:59 pm to bobbyray21
quote:
Guerrero
De la Hoya
Zab Judah
Ricky Hatton
Marquez
Jose Luis Castillo....twice
Miguel Cotto
Arturo Gatti
Diego Corrales
Who are the other worthy contenders (besides Pac) that he didn't fight?
Take as much time as you need. And say hello to your mother for me.
These boxers went 42-21 after fighting Mayweather. Not exactly stellar. The best of those after Mayweather were Castillo at 18-6 and Marquez at 5-1. De la Hoya was 1-1, Hatton 2-2 Gatti 1-2 and Cotto was 0-1. Big names but not exactly in the prime of their careers. Did not include Guerrero as they just fought.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 5:01 pm to bobbyray21
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Guerrero
De la Hoya
Zab Judah
Ricky Hatton
Marquez
Jose Luis Castillo....twice
Miguel Cotto
Arturo Gatti
Diego Corrales
Margarito - outright duck
Paul Williams - outright duck
Mosley and Cotto - should of fought them years before he did
Stevie Johnston - conveniently moved up in weight before he became his mandatory
Kostya Tszyu - although it is plausible that he ducked Floyd.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 5:01 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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James Toney
Virgil Hill
Thulani Malinga
Reggie Johnson
This is funny. I love the etc. etc. etc. And I love you trying to pass of Hill, Malinga, and Johnson as top flight boxers.
Reggie Johnson? Come on, dude, you hadn't really convinced yourself I didn't know boxing, had you?
There can be no denying that Jones fought a dearth of top notch guys. This is more glaring with respect to Jones than Mayweather. But I hate that argument as applied to both Jones and Mayweather. They fought the guys that were there.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 5:03 pm to bobbyray21
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But for God's sakes don't throw the resumes away. A fighter's resume -- his various accomplishments throughout his career -- are a means to the end of determining who the best P4P fighter is.
It focuses the analysis when you try to answer the question of which fighter was the best at their best. But you can't answer the question without referring to their careers.
So what is your argument for Floyd over Hopkins/Pacquiao/Barrera etc
Posted on 5/9/13 at 5:05 pm to ptra
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Did not include Guerrero as they just fought.
And I was right there to watch Mayweather beat that arse. He does what he does, it's not super exciting but it's effective and he wins fights.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 5:06 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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Margarito - outright duck
Does Margarito get to use of plaster of paris if they fight?
When did this alleged outright duck take place?
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