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I think the pichers mounds are closer this year

Posted on 7/13/25 at 8:28 am
Posted by lsubatman1
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Posted on 7/13/25 at 8:28 am
Anyone else think the mlb did this in secret as an experiment? Im pretty sure that's what's going on with all these 100 plus mph piches. i just saw a clip of a guy throwing 104 and im just not buying it, unless, of course, the mlb snuck in this change without letting everyone, including the players, know. Wouldn't put it past them!
Posted by littleavery1948
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Posted on 7/13/25 at 8:30 am to
And Judge is still owning cats
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 7/13/25 at 8:30 am to
Its because velocity is king and all these “years round travel ball” players are taught at a young age to throw harder over throwing smarter

Go look up the increase in Tommy John surgeries over the last few years. It’s sky rocketed. These kids are throwing their arms out.
This post was edited on 7/13/25 at 8:33 am
Posted by DBG
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Posted on 7/13/25 at 8:30 am to
Nolan Ryan threw 109 at age 39
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 7/13/25 at 8:31 am to
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Nolan Ryan threw 109 at age 39


That's been debunked. It was closer to 100
Posted by DBG
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Posted on 7/13/25 at 8:32 am to
Don’t tell the old heads here that
Posted by lsubatman1
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/13/25 at 8:34 am to
The only one i believe is truly throwing that hard is Skenes,i just didn't believe the rest!
Posted by cubsfan5150
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Posted on 7/13/25 at 8:36 am to
Is this supposed to be a joke?
Posted by lsubatman1
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/13/25 at 8:39 am to
How else do you explained it then? And spare me they now throw as hard as they can. Do you think the GOAT pichers like Maddox, glavine,and smoltz weren't throwing as hard as they could, and now you have all these podunk johnnies from out of nowhere hitiing 100plus overnight? Doesnt add up!
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
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Posted on 7/13/25 at 8:40 am to
Wake up ppl
Posted by Longhorn Actual
Member since Dec 2023
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Posted on 7/13/25 at 8:51 am to
The ball is thrown as hard as it's thrown, irrespective of the distance. V(max) doesn't change.

Any reduction in velocity due to friction/drag would be negligible at those distances.

Reducing the distance between the plate and the mound wouldn't increase the velocity of the thrown object. It would simply be subject to less cumulative drag.

Posted by lsubatman1
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/13/25 at 8:54 am to
So why do they show the equvilent speed at the llws? Your little math doesn't add up! So your saying a picher throwing a ball at 100 mph from 60 ft away will still only be 100 mph when thrown from 30 feet away, lol! I may be kind of stupid but even im not that dumb!
Posted by RoscoeHarper
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Posted on 7/13/25 at 8:57 am to
You are an idiot. The measurement is taken out of the hand so the distance does not matter. Your LLWS example doesn't even make sense. The LLWS is still throwing 70, the calculation you are talking about is measuring the equivalent timing the batter has to react.
Posted by Alt26
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Posted on 7/13/25 at 8:57 am to
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How else do you explained it then?


1. Analytics have driven velocity to take precedent over “pitching”. Scouts and GMs figure they can teach guys how to pitch. They can’t really teach him how to throw hard. Plus, starters aren’t expected to pitch complete games any more. They just have to go all out for 5 innings or so, then let a group of bullpen arms…all throwing as hard as they can for one inning…put the game away.

2. The radar guns have become more accurate. There we some guys throwing as hard 40-50 years ago. It just the tech to measure it wasn’t as fine tuned as it is now
Posted by Longhorn Actual
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Posted on 7/13/25 at 8:58 am to
quote:

So why do they show the equvilent speed at the llws? Your little math doesn't add up! So your saying a picher throwing a ball at 100 mph from 60 ft away will still only be 100 mph when thrown from 30 feet away, lol! I may be kind of stupid but even im not that dumb!


It's the equivalent of a XXXmph fastball in terms of reaction time.

Time of flight is a function of velocity and distance. Reducing distance reduces ToF, but doesn't change velocity (unless distance was increased to the point drag became a factor by slowing the object down; not slowing an object down =/= speeding an object up).

quote:

I may be kind of stupid but even im not that dumb!


I realize you're probably trolling, but if not, yeah...you are that dumb.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/13/25 at 9:01 am to
quote:

Go look up the increase in Tommy John surgeries over the last few years. It’s sky rocketed. These kids are throwing their arms out.


Serious question. Is TJ linked to throwing fastballs hard? I thought the physical issues with that manifested with back/shoulder issues, and TJ was from breaking stuff that put too much strain on elbows.
Posted by Longhorn Actual
Member since Dec 2023
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Posted on 7/13/25 at 9:09 am to
quote:

Serious question. Is TJ linked to throwing fastballs hard? I thought the physical issues with that manifested with back/shoulder issues, and TJ was from breaking stuff that put too much strain on elbows.


The quest to increase spin rate on breaking balls plays a large role in the uptick in TJ surgeries, but "throwing as hard as you can" isn't helping either.

Strain on the arm is strain on the arm. "Jaxxon's first TJ surgery" is a real thing.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 7/13/25 at 9:11 am to
I saw something the other day that the rise in velocity chasing is in major part due to how good the hitters have become. The idea being now that a guy throwing 92 is going to get hammered by just about every hitter in the lineup. The analytics/sabremetrics approach of hitting have left pitchers with no option other than just throwing as hard as possible because every batter is up there swinging for the fences.
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 7/13/25 at 9:42 am to
Same as with football and basketball - the players today are bigger, faster, stronger, more fit, better trained and for the most part, better players.

Today's players have gotten too good for the parameters of the games that they play. For football and basketball, you could enlarge the field for football and do the same for basketball, while raising the goal.

I don't know how you do something like this for baseball. I guess you could enlarge the field, but, then you'd just have more In-The-Park Home Runs. You can't push the pitcher's mound back or lower it because then the Hitters would have too much of an advantage.

It's quite an interesting puzzle IMHO.
Posted by Major Dutch Schaefer
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Posted on 7/13/25 at 9:45 am to
quote:

I think the pichers mounds are closer this year

Anyone else think the mlb did this in secret as an experiment?


So all these MLB stadiums had there mounds moved closer and no one is reporting it??
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