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re: I think Draymond is an idiot but he has a decent point about Steph GOAT convo
Posted on 3/14/25 at 12:58 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 3/14/25 at 12:58 pm to lsupride87
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Compared to guys like Kareem, MJ, and LeBron, his defensive side of the ball is far too weak to be on their level. He is the tier right below them though
I think Steph is too nice of a personality to be in the GOAT conversation… unlike legendary a-hole MJ and GM LeBron
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Posted on 3/14/25 at 1:02 pm to Tiger1242
Curry has missed the playoffs almost half his career. Give him a team with 2-3 hall of famers and look out. Otherwise, meh.
The rise of the 3 point shot is more due to the analytics movement than curry. You can win a lot of games by shooting 3s at 36%. You don’t have to shoot 3s well for it to be a good shot. That is not from Curry honestly Morey Is the most influential person on todays nba as he introduced the analytics driven approach to the league. .
The rise of the 3 point shot is more due to the analytics movement than curry. You can win a lot of games by shooting 3s at 36%. You don’t have to shoot 3s well for it to be a good shot. That is not from Curry honestly Morey Is the most influential person on todays nba as he introduced the analytics driven approach to the league. .
Posted on 3/14/25 at 1:04 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:Thats a very good point
Curry has missed the playoffs almost half his career.
When you are only good on half of the game you can’t carry a team
Posted on 3/14/25 at 1:08 pm to lsupride87
He can’t even carry an offense. Team offense ranking by season
25 - 13th
24 - 9
23 - 10
22 - 16
21 - 20
GSW hasn’t had an offense in the top 25% of the league in any season since KD left. he is not on the same level as the true elite guys when it comes to producing elite team offense.
25 - 13th
24 - 9
23 - 10
22 - 16
21 - 20
GSW hasn’t had an offense in the top 25% of the league in any season since KD left. he is not on the same level as the true elite guys when it comes to producing elite team offense.
Posted on 3/14/25 at 1:24 pm to Tiger1242
idk about GOAT
he is easily a top 1-2 most influential players of all time. Because the way his ability to shoot 3s shaped basketball.
and you can argue without Curry maybe that is is James Harden or Klay Thompson who become proof of concept for the 3 point analytics but I think Curry was just on such another level it made the point so clearly
but if you look at body of work…
24.7 PPG career?
2 scoring titles?
For a guy whose main thing is shooting… he doesn’t score “GOAT” levels of points.
He hovers between average to below average as a defender.
His asst stats are nice, but not mind blowing considering who he has played next to.
2 MVPs but the first one was because the team was so good.
He’s lead the league in PER and W/S 1 times
4 rings but only 1 Finals MVP
he is easily a top 1-2 most influential players of all time. Because the way his ability to shoot 3s shaped basketball.
and you can argue without Curry maybe that is is James Harden or Klay Thompson who become proof of concept for the 3 point analytics but I think Curry was just on such another level it made the point so clearly
but if you look at body of work…
24.7 PPG career?
2 scoring titles?
For a guy whose main thing is shooting… he doesn’t score “GOAT” levels of points.
He hovers between average to below average as a defender.
His asst stats are nice, but not mind blowing considering who he has played next to.
2 MVPs but the first one was because the team was so good.
He’s lead the league in PER and W/S 1 times
4 rings but only 1 Finals MVP
Posted on 3/14/25 at 1:24 pm to Crow Pie
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Any candidate to be the "NBA GOAT" must have, at a bare minimum, a 6-0 NBA Finals record
This is such a weird, arbitrary qualifier
Posted on 3/14/25 at 1:25 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Boomshockalocka
Oh god...not you again. What's Harden up to these days? Oh. Right. Jack shite, like his entire career
Posted on 3/14/25 at 1:27 pm to WaltTeevens
Has won more games than Steph, has won a higher % of his games than Steph, more 1st team all nba. More career MVP shares. Steph had more help every time they matched up. Curry doesn’t even make the playoff with the types of rosters harden was taking to 50+ wins and deep into the postseason.
Posted on 3/14/25 at 1:44 pm to Crow Pie
quote:Then you are a retard
Sorry, but Prince LeBran doesn't meet the minimum level required to even be a candidate.
There is no other explanation for your opinion
Posted on 3/14/25 at 1:45 pm to MusclesofBrussels
quote:Well then you don’t realize how many people on the MSB are dumber than Kamala voters.
Steph as a GOAT candidate is a wild take, surprised so many people here seem to agree with it.
These people are lacking.
Posted on 3/14/25 at 2:43 pm to Tiger1242
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In lieu of Steph hitting 4000 3’s I thought I’d bring it up.
Posted on 3/14/25 at 2:45 pm to Tiger1242
He’s an Alltime great but he has no argument for GOAT
Posted on 3/14/25 at 2:57 pm to Tiger1242
Steph is the greatest of anyone who is not in the top .05% tallest people on earth.
Posted on 3/14/25 at 2:58 pm to BHTiger
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Jordon
Posted on 3/14/25 at 2:59 pm to Tiger1242
Dray is also not giving Klay his flowers here either or the offensive system where they completely hunted 3 point shots for years. Dray was running around wide open because the two best 3 point shooters in the league at one time were on the same team as well as the Warriors preferred to take and 3 and finally because Dray cannot shoot and people wouldn’t guard him.
Posted on 3/14/25 at 3:01 pm to Tiger1242
My kids and I talk about this fairly. Steph Curry changed the game to finesse perimeter shooting almost by himself.
Even now at 37, he's very often the most dangerous man on the court.
Even now at 37, he's very often the most dangerous man on the court.
Posted on 3/14/25 at 3:03 pm to Tiger1242
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they’d rather go run and take the three away from him on the wing and give me a dunk.
Yeah but how much of that is them just thinking you’ll probably still kick it out or miss the dunk?
Posted on 3/14/25 at 3:05 pm to extremetigerfanatic
And you can’t be the GOAT when for three years in your prime you weren’t even the best player on your own team.
This post was edited on 3/14/25 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 3/14/25 at 3:19 pm to Crow Pie
quote:
Any candidate to be the "NBA GOAT" must have, at a bare minimum, a 6-0 NBA Finals record.
LeBron fanboys just can't help themselves.
Posted on 3/14/25 at 3:33 pm to VA LSU fan
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People consider MJ the goat because the second best superstar in the mid 90’s in their prime was a fringe top 15-20 player.
What a coincidence.
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