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re: How would you fix ULM football?

Posted on 2/9/21 at 1:34 pm to
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/9/21 at 1:34 pm to
They need to invest a shite ton of money into the program.

Posted by Comic_Tiger
Member since Jul 2020
1277 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 1:45 pm to
Look at all the downvotes from the USL fans. Wow.
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
38217 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 1:47 pm to
id be happy with averaging 5k actual tbh
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
10965 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 1:48 pm to
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too much of the sports world wonders just where the heck it is.



Bama knows where it is.

And for the love of God, ULM is not dropping down. I know that looks so good to everybody to type it out and I am sure Tech and ULL would rub one out if it actuallly happened but ULM has to stay as is for the money games. They will not get that cash to float all the other dumb sports nobody cares about otherwise.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
27401 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 1:57 pm to
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They need to invest a shite ton of money into the program.


I mean...that should just be incredibly simple to do, right?

Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
5479 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 3:30 pm to
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much better conferences than ULM


Great points... but this probably isn’t true anymore... the MAIN reason ULM is where it is in football... is the failure of the program in the 90’s to recruit Monroe(Ouachita Parish) high schools... any AD with common sense would have hired a head coach with local ties... NE LOUISIANA has had plenty of players who didn’t attend one of the SEC or BIG 12 schools who should have been at ULM... Fobbs would have been a better hire ... hell anybody with local ties really...
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40201 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 3:47 pm to
Look, just because the number of FBS programs keeps increasing, doesn't mean there is enough talent in the country to fill up all the spots.

Louisiana, in my opinion, is too small to have four public FBS programs plus a private FBS program.

Having two FBS programs 37.5 miles apart in North Louisiana is beyond absurd.
Posted by turnpiketiger
Member since May 2020
11988 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 3:47 pm to
Move to FCS and stop scheduling all power 5 OOC games. Play FCS or other G5 teams for at least 2 OOC games. I get the P5’s are money games. It’s business but damn ULM always plays like 5 of them in one season.
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
10965 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 3:54 pm to
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is the failure of the program in the 90’s to recruit Monroe(Ouachita Parish) high schools...


Thank you. I have said this only about a thousand times over the years when the ULM football sucks threads show up. The problem is that ULM isn't gonna get the Johnny 5 star players in NE LA that would be instant coffee for a program like ULM. Those kids are going to LSU, heaven forbid Bama, and WTF TCU? Knowing that you would have to coach up local talent (which takes time) and every coach at ULM knows that you are facing the gauntlet of a brutal non-conference schedule, the only real option is to get as many JUCO's as you can to at least be somewhat competitive in a hurry. Now, add decades of sucking arse (outside of 2012) and LA Tech and ULL have lapped ULM for most local talent.
Posted by oliveandblue
Member since Nov 2014
1751 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 4:34 pm to
There aren't too many teams. The problem is that ULM is getting rinsed in recruiting when facing other G5 schools.

Right now, LT/Tulane/UL are turning into serial bowl teams and are winning the key 3* recruiting battles that keep you in the 40-80 range instead of the 110-130 range.

They belong - they just need to stop getting their shite pushed in during the off-season....
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
46237 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 4:48 pm to
ULM doesn't pay cost of attendance. That's their recruiting problem.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61264 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 4:51 pm to
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Move to FCS and stop scheduling all power 5 OOC games. Play FCS or other G5 teams for at least 2 OOC games. I get the P5’s are money games. It’s business but damn ULM always plays like 5 of them in one season.


Moving to FCS would blow a massive hole into their finances.

FBS teams are now getting upwards of $1.5 million to travel to P5 schools for one and done games.

FCS schools only get around $300k.
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
10965 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 5:07 pm to
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ULM doesn't pay cost of attendance. That's their recruiting problem.



True. I imagine if they are paying Bowden/Rich Rod salaries, then maybe the purse strings are cut and they might actually nip this. It seems very cart before the horse strategy but you have to spend money to make money so who knows?
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
27401 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 5:11 pm to
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ULM doesn't pay cost of attendance. That's their recruiting problem.


Could they afford to if they wanted?
Posted by turnpiketiger
Member since May 2020
11988 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 5:14 pm to
I get the money perspective but what’s the point of all that money if they’re never gonna be able to do anything because they’re too busy getting smashed 70-0 multiple times a season. Play OOC games that you can build on.
Posted by chew4219
Member since Sep 2009
3064 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 6:04 pm to
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And for the love of God, ULM is not dropping down


I’ve been told by 2 members of the ULS Board and a former member of the ULS Board that this is their last shot at being successful. If hiring Bowden and Rich Rod doesn’t open the wallets of NLA and they don’t win then ULM will drop to FCS or drop football all together.

To their credit, they seem to have heeded their warning and have made an effort to bring in some excitement. Hopefully it pays off for them.
Posted by Ole Mule
Too far south
Member since Mar 2011
4586 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 6:37 pm to
They need to join the LHSAA and be in District 2-5A with West Monroe.
This post was edited on 2/9/21 at 6:49 pm
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53682 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 10:59 pm to
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okay what young innovator would want a job thats proven to be career suicide for the last 2 decades?

if they go 1-AA, they can hire the coach from Neville and be okay
Posted by Tigear
Scotland
Member since Sep 2019
820 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 8:09 am to
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ULM is not averaging 40k a game.


They are not averaging 40k a game. Yet.


You can't look at UCF attendance numbers because Orlando is akin to L.A. in terms of sports vs. everything else to do. Even while UCF has an undergrad enrollment of over 50,000 - it's Orlando. There's so much else going on/to do + on campus football is still a relatively new concept to UCF. Hell, they played their games nearly 30 minutes away at the Citrus Bowl until the late 00s.
UCF is also largely a commuter school with a below average size Greek life body. They just don't have the football tradition life yet.

Compared to Monroe, LA - there's next to NOTHING to do in NE LA other than go hunting. Once ULM starts winning, it will become THE social event of the entire area for baws + bawettes to see & be seen.
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
38217 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 8:14 am to
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UCF is also largely a commuter school with a below average size Greek life body.
all true for ULM as well
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