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re: How long is Paul Skenes arm going to hold up?
Posted on 4/19/24 at 7:17 pm to MillerLiteTime
Posted on 4/19/24 at 7:17 pm to MillerLiteTime
What I don’t get is why are they wasting pitches in the minors? They can limit him in the majors just as easy but still get the benefit of 3-4 innings of top tier pitching. With his K rate he’s gonna be lucky to get past 5 innings anyway so why not use every pitch in the majors? People are going to be upset when he finally gets promoted and still only goes 4-5 innings because he’s K’ing everyone with some foul balls here and there.
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Posted on 4/19/24 at 7:33 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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Yep. Kids shouldn't touch any off-speed(excluding change-ups) until they are 13-14 IMO.
What's wrong with a kid tossing a knuckleball or the eephus
Posted on 4/19/24 at 7:43 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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And it worked. You hardly ever saw any arm injuries w/the Braves staff, save Smoltz.
And even Smoltz pitched until his mid 30’s before having TJ surgery. Kind of insane considering how hard he threw and how much he threw the slider.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 8:13 pm to lsufball19
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pitch speeds were tracked much differently back then, though. Ryan def threw as hard as Skenes. Ryan was also kind of a unicorn
This is true. Today’s velocity is measured soon after the ball is released where prior to the 2000s, velocity was measured before home plate. Check out the documentary “Fastball”. It does a good job of breaking it down. Nolan Ryan would have been around 105 - 107 when he was throwing his hardest in the mid to late 1970s.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 9:26 pm to Lsuhoohoo
I think it all depends on how much his arm was used growing up. IMO all these injuries over the last few years is from overuse from a young age. The older guys Ryan, Clemens, Petitte etc didn’t have travel ball year round like players do now a days.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 9:27 pm to SWLA92
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The older guys Ryan, Clemens, Petitte etc didn’t have travel ball year round like players do now a days.
There was also not a focus on spin rate back then as there is now.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 10:05 pm to dnm3305
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Clemens sat at 96-97.
Ryan touched 100 but didnt hit it consistently.
You do realize that is more of a function of modern velo guns vs older ones used in Ryan's and Clemen's heyday, right? The entire major leagues didn't all just collectively start throwing 5-6mph harder in the span of about one decade.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 10:10 pm to lsu777
I don’t know dick about arse when it comes to lat coefficients and all that jazz
But it simply doesn’t look at all like skenes is straining or trying to throw hard. It looks fluid
But it simply doesn’t look at all like skenes is straining or trying to throw hard. It looks fluid
Posted on 4/19/24 at 11:07 pm to boosiebadazz
Exactly. Never looks like he is overthrowing
Posted on 4/20/24 at 12:09 am to boosiebadazz
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Given his size and his frame, he may not be putting excess stress on his arm. He may just be a fricking monster who can throw the same ball harder than dudes who aren’t built like him.
And thus, the Rant Baseball pitching wanna-be experts crumbled to pieces.
Posted on 4/20/24 at 12:13 am to lsupride87
im convinced yall watch no baseball between lsu & barbe/catholic
Posted on 4/20/24 at 12:18 am to Lester Earl
Les te r P Le as e
Posted on 4/20/24 at 6:11 am to SoFla Tideroller
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The entire major leagues didn't all just collectively start throwing 5-6mph harder in the span of about one decade.
Except maybe they are as we figure out what goes into velo and deal with the need for more Ks in the analytics era… (LSU isn’t recruiting the arms they used to)
Posted on 4/20/24 at 6:13 am to Lsuhoohoo
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How long is Paul Skenes arm going to hold up
6 months?
6 years?
16 years?
He could be Ryan or David Clyde.
Posted on 4/20/24 at 7:15 am to RunningJacket
Their objective is to keep him there till June and they'll delay the time he hits free agency by a year.
This post was edited on 4/20/24 at 7:50 am
Posted on 4/20/24 at 7:42 am to BigD43
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Theyre objective is to keep him there till June and they'll delay the time he hits free agency by a year.
+1
He is not pitching 200 innings this season anyways. So if they start him now, they would have to shut him down early to not give him too many innings and overwork his arm.
Posted on 4/20/24 at 5:12 pm to SoFla Tideroller
quote:yep they measured much closer to the plate which makes Ryan's fastballs in the 70s even more impressive
You do realize that is more of a function of modern velo guns vs older ones used in Ryan's and Clemen's heyday, right?
Posted on 4/20/24 at 5:16 pm to Lester Earl
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im convinced yall watch no baseball between lsu & barbe/catholic
I’m convinced some on here and the Rant watch very little baseball outside of their kid’s 11U travel team.
Posted on 4/20/24 at 5:36 pm to Cosmo
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Clemens, Ryan and RJ held up just fine
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