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re: How do the Saints restructure?
Posted on 1/18/21 at 11:46 am to TheeRealCarolina
Posted on 1/18/21 at 11:46 am to TheeRealCarolina
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How the hell does a front office let their team get in this piss poor of salary cap situation??? Why the hell is your back up tight end being paid $16 million?
They were going all in on today. Not worried about tomorrow.
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Posted on 1/18/21 at 11:51 am to chalmetteowl
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you think Payton will be the coach next time we go to the playoffs?
I think so. I tend to think Payton has bought himself enough goodwill that unless we’re stinking it up (<6 wins) for multiple seasons in a row, ownership would let him stay as long as he wants.
I’m biased but I tend to think he’ll stay with the Saints until he retires. He just fits with the organization and the fans like him a lot.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 12:48 pm to lionward2014
quote:unless they’re all bots too
Instagram is full of everyone posting tributes to him today.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 12:50 pm to Rand AlThor
quote:remember, the owner is Mrs. B and not Mr. B
I tend to think Payton has bought himself enough goodwill that unless we’re stinking it up (<6 wins) for multiple seasons in a row, ownership would let him stay as long as he wants.
I’m biased but I tend to think he’ll stay with the Saints until he retires. He just fits with the organization and the fans like him a lot.
We’re probably gonna have to have those stinker seasons to rebuild
Posted on 1/18/21 at 12:51 pm to Rhino5
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I’m not sure what decent QB would want to play in New Orleans after the treatment Drew Brees has received.
I have an aunt that’s in the real estate business and I heard that D Watson’s wife has been looking at homes on the lakefront
Posted on 1/18/21 at 12:54 pm to LSUFanHouston
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They were going all in on today. Not worried about tomorrow.
the Saints FO always has this philosophy. it's why they're so aggressive trading draft picks in future years to move up in the draft
they'll be able to restructure a ton of deals and push the can further down the road like always
now there are some moves that make no sense, like taysom hill's idiotic contract, but no FO is perfect
Posted on 1/18/21 at 12:56 pm to chalmetteowl
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We’re probably gonna have to have those stinker seasons to rebuild
i don't see why the Saints need to rebuild
look how good we've been the past 3 years with a mediocre-bad QB. we have drafted insanely well and are entering into the prime zone for one of the GOAT draft classes in NFL history
Posted on 1/18/21 at 1:00 pm to shel311
Drew signs 10 year deal for a dollar a year
Posted on 1/18/21 at 1:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i don't see why the Saints need to rebuild
Because you’re $99 million over the cap and don’t even have a reliable QB signed. Brees is gone, Winston isn’t under contract and Taysom is right handed Tebow.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 1:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:won't help as much this year, from all reports the most they can free up is 40-45m from the different subscription articles
they'll be able to restructure a ton of deals and push the can further down the road like always
now there are some moves that make no sense, like taysom hill's idiotic contract, but no FO is perfect
Posted on 1/18/21 at 1:08 pm to TheeRealCarolina
if we have to roll with Taysom's shitty arse for a year so be it. still no reason to rebuild
we're going to restructure a lot of deals like we also do
we may have to make some business decisions with good players (like Armstead, Jordan) but we don't need to "rebuild"
per OTC, we have 9 guys (including Brees) with a base salary $10M or more. that's a ton of room to work with
cutting Kwon alone saves $13M. we can easily restructure that entire deal to keep him and save almost all of that hit
we're going to restructure a lot of deals like we also do
we may have to make some business decisions with good players (like Armstead, Jordan) but we don't need to "rebuild"
per OTC, we have 9 guys (including Brees) with a base salary $10M or more. that's a ton of room to work with
cutting Kwon alone saves $13M. we can easily restructure that entire deal to keep him and save almost all of that hit
Posted on 1/18/21 at 1:09 pm to TheeRealCarolina
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Because you’re $99 million over the cap and don’t even have a reliable QB signed. Brees is gone, Winston isn’t under contract and Taysom is right handed Tebow.
We have some tough calls but there’s a few cuts and restructures that can cut that number in half right away. The offense is good to go with a remotely competent QB. They’ll have to do some drafting on the defensive side but they have a good base there.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 1:10 pm to tduecen
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most they can free up is 40-45m from the different subscription articles
there is no way
Kwan and Ram alone are almost $24M that projection and can almost entirely be deferred with new deals
Posted on 1/18/21 at 1:11 pm to chalmetteowl
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you think Payton will be the coach next time we go to the playoffs
He will probably be like Andy Reid. And just as fat. Looks like he doesn’t miss any meals.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 1:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
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and are entering into the prime zone for one of the GOAT draft classes in NFL history
That 2017 class was absolutely amazing
Posted on 1/18/21 at 1:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
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we're going to restructure a lot of deals like we also do
If you were $25 million over the cap, I’d say this is possible. Not $100 million though. You’re going to lose significant players.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 1:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
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we can easily restructure that entire deal to keep him and save almost all of that hit
Injury prone guy coming off an achilles injury. Hopefully we get him for pennies on a backloaded deal. He is far and away better than Anzalone.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 1:26 pm to TheeRealCarolina
The best player they may lose this offseason is Hendrickson unless there's a surprise cut I'm missing. They're old as a whole, but much of their star power is young and under contract. As long as they're willing to roll with Taysom or a cheap alternative they don't need to blow anything up or rebuild as so many are suggesting.
If they get adequate QB play there's no reason they're not a 9-7 team in the hunt for a playoff spot. Kamara, Thomas, Ram, McCoy, Jordan, Davis, Lattimore aren't going anywhere.
They also still have their 1st, 2nd, and two 3rd round comp picks.
The sky isn't falling.
If they get adequate QB play there's no reason they're not a 9-7 team in the hunt for a playoff spot. Kamara, Thomas, Ram, McCoy, Jordan, Davis, Lattimore aren't going anywhere.
They also still have their 1st, 2nd, and two 3rd round comp picks.
The sky isn't falling.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 1:28 pm to TheeRealCarolina
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If you were $25 million over the cap, I’d say this is possible.
we've been projected well over $25M going into offseasons where we ended up signing free agents
designating Brees a post June 1 cut saves $25M alone
if we did the same for Armstead that's another $11.75M
restructure Kwon to get his $13M hit to $1M (or we can cut him) and re-sign Ram to get his $11M his to $1
those 4 moves save about $60M
Latt is like Ram and over $10M that can be restructured lower with a new deal.
cutting Eason post June 1 saves $6.5M
cutting Malcom Brown post June 1 saves $5M
etc
Posted on 1/18/21 at 1:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
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If Drew Brees retires as expected, the Saints would free up $13.5 million
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Cutting linebacker Kwon Alexander should create $13.4 million in space
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Interior offensive lineman Nick Easton is valuable depth, but we need the $6 million in cap savings for a guy who isn't projected to start
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Moving on from veteran wide receiver Emmanuel Sanders frees up an additional $6.5 million, and releasing defensive tackle Malcom Brown creates $5 million more in savings. Janoris Jenkins, with a $14.2 million cap hold, can net us $10 million more as a post-June 1 release, and fellow corner Patrick Robinson gets us $2.6 million more.
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The Saints have a pair of young superstars due new deals, and both tackle Ryan Ramczyk and cornerback Marshon Lattimore are expecting to become one of the highest-paid players at their respective positions in the game. Both Lattimore ($10.2 million) and Ramczyk ($11.1 million) already have significant cap figures, so the team could reduce both those figures with extensions. Again, with a two-tier bonus structure, let's say the Saints reduce each of their 2021 cap holds to $5 million. While they have spent hundreds of millions of dollars, they've now freed up $11.3
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While he might have been the subject of trade rumors, we need to use the four years remaining on Michael Thomas' extension as runway. Converting $11.6 million of his $12.6 million base salary into an option bonus and adding a voidable year frees up $9.3 million. We can make a similar move with defensive end Cam Jordan's contract and create $8.7 million more in space.
This post was edited on 1/18/21 at 1:45 pm
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