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re: How do the Saints restructure?
Posted on 1/18/21 at 1:47 pm to tduecen
Posted on 1/18/21 at 1:47 pm to tduecen
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If Drew Brees retires as expected, the Saints would free up $13.5 million
i believe they can designate this post June 1 which bumps that to $25M (it just adds more dead money to 2022, which is how we do things)
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Again, with a two-tier bonus structure, let's say the Saints reduce each of their 2021 cap holds to $5 million. While they have spent hundreds of millions of dollars, they've now freed up $11.3
they can get both much lower than $5M if necessary
and i love the "while they have spent hundreds of millions of dollars" as if they spent that to free up the $11M and not to re-sign 2 studs
Posted on 1/18/21 at 2:07 pm to TheRouxGuru
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I have an aunt that’s in the real estate business and I heard that D Watson’s wife has been looking at homes on the lakefront
Don’t do this to yourself. Saints would have to sell half their team to afford Watson.
Also, I doubt he’d subject himself to the treatment Brees received from the fanbase this summer.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 2:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
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designating Brees a post June 1 cut saves $25M alone
So that brings you down to $75 million with no starting QB.
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if we did the same for Armstead that's another $11.75M
So that gets you to $63 million with no starting LT.
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restructure Kwon to get his $13M hit to $1M (or we can cut him)
$50 million and down a starting LB.
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re-sign Ram to get his $11M his to $1
Literally can’t do to the CBA, but let’s say you can make your other OT go against his best interest that’s still $40 million over.
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Latt is like Ram and over $10M that can be restructured lower with a new deal.
Kicking the can is what you put you in this situation.
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cutting Eason post June 1 saves $6.5M
cutting Malcom Brown post June 1 saves $5M
So all those moves and you are still $30 million over the cap and lost significant contributors. Not to mention that you are factoring in the dead cap space from the moves above.
The math doesn’t work son. You are also counting on Pro Bowl/all pro players to take less money in their prime seasons because reasons.
This post was edited on 1/18/21 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:05 pm to TheeRealCarolina
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So that brings you down to $75 million with no starting QB.
we have hill. we can easily be mediocre or possibly pretty good with hill for a year. supposedly we may backload Jameis and if he agrees, we're contenders
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So that gets you to $63 million with no starting LT.
Peat moves to LT and Ruiz starts
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$50 million and down a starting LB.
he only started for us for like 3 games i think
HOW WILL WE AVOID THE REBUILD WITHOUT HIM?!?!?
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Kicking the can is what you put you in this situation.
we're "in this situation" every year
some day we will have to face the music but it will be a while from now and only be bad for 1 year. we've been in worse positions
hell we cute junior gallette and ate almost his entire signing bonus AND traded Jimmy Graham and ate almost his entire signing bonus in one offseason
also, re-signing young guys is not "kicking the can down the road"
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So all those moves and you are still $30 million over the cap and lost significant contributors.
the only real impactful starter lost (other than Brees) is Armstead. we're also going to lose Henrickson b/c we can't afford to re-sign him. that's what happens when you have one of the top 3 loaded rosters in the NFL. you can't keep everyone
$30M is nothing. not with base salaries like Taysom Hill ($10.2M), Janoris Jenkins ($10.0M), Peat ($9.0M), Onyematta ($7.0M), Jordan ($11.9M), and Thomas ($12.6M)
Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:05 pm to TheeRealCarolina
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You are also counting on Pro Bowl/all pro players to take lose money in their prime seasons because reasons.
no I'm not. this is the definition of a strawman
Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:09 pm to Rhino5
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Also, I doubt he’d subject himself to the treatment Brees received from the fanbase this summer.
You think that was a 'unique to New Orleans' sort of reaction?
Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
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no I'm not. this is the definition of a strawman
Lol you don’t even remember your own bad recommendations.
The sooner you accept that your front office is going to have to blow it up and the Aints are going to be 4th in the NFC South in 2021 and likely 2022 as well while they rebuild, the better off you’ll be. Deny it, run from it, ignore it, it’s still going to happen all the same.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:24 pm to TheeRealCarolina
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Lol you don’t even remember your own bad recommendations.
i don't think you understand my recommendations
Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i don't see why the Saints need to rebuild look how good we've been the past 3 years with a mediocre-bad QB
This is why im kinda excited tbh
Seanathan with AK plus a good defense is an excellent base.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:29 pm to TigerCrude
Not sure how but they just need to blow it up as much as possible in 2021. Saints have a great front office and good coach in Peyton. They will be fine long term. It is going to be painful next year and just lean into that.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:32 pm to TigerCrude
If I’m not mistaken, Winston is a free agent and could likely be gone. However, another FA is Matthew Stafford, who still has a deep ball that Brees has lacked for 2 full seasons now.
Stafford to NOLA?
Stafford to NOLA?
Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i don't think you understand my recommendations
I understand that you copied someone else’s ideas, passed them off as your own and then tossed in a whole bunch of shite that has zero chance of happening and think you’ve magically fixed a situation with bullshite that wouldn’t even work on Madden.
Face it dude, your team drafted well and then shite it all away by committing 20% of your cap space to a washed old QB and overpriced veterans. You mortgaged your future for a 3 year window that took you nowhere and now the bills come due.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:33 pm to S
that 2015 offseason was so terrible. we had to eat all the Graham and Galette dead money immediately and hadn't drafted well
the difference this year is that Ireland has been absurd in the draft since we've had him
the difference this year is that Ireland has been absurd in the draft since we've had him
Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:35 pm to TheeRealCarolina
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I understand that you copied someone else’s ideas
wrong
i did use data from OTC for my numbers
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and think you’ve magically fixed a situation with bullshite that wouldn’t even work on Madden.
current Madden has legit terrible, 3rd grade contracts. so no you couldn't fix it on this Madden
now back in like 06? yeah, you could
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Face it dude, your team drafted well and then shite it all away by committing 20% of your cap space to a washed old QB and overpriced veterans. You mortgaged your future for a 3 year window that took you nowhere and now the bills come due.
oh wow
i am so threatened by shite-talking from a person who legit has no idea what they're talking about and just proved it once again
how will i ever recover from an imbecile trying to explain things he doesn't comprehend?
Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
Don’t take the bait
His shtick is to be a contrarian on the MSB
His shtick is to be a contrarian on the MSB
Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:38 pm to charlottetiger
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If I’m not mistaken, Winston is a free agent and could likely be gone. However, another FA is Matthew Stafford, who still has a deep ball that Brees has lacked for 2 full seasons now.
Stafford to NOLA?
Other than the fact that you have no means to acquire him nor the ability to pay him, sounds like a great plan.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:41 pm to VermilionTiger
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His shtick is to be a contrarian on the MSB
If being proven consistently right while this board is consistently wrong makes me a contrarian then I’ll gladly accept that label.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:46 pm to TheeRealCarolina
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If being proven consistently right
can you point out where i said players had to take a paycut?
Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:49 pm to SlowFlowPro
This is the same guy that claims Lamar Jackson is a better quarterback than Deshaun Watson.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:51 pm to TheeRealCarolina
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If being proven consistently right while this board is consistently wrong makes me a contrarian then I’ll gladly accept that label.
What you’re doing here is nothing more than an extension of the SEC Rant
Grasping at straws to do anything it takes to piss off Louisiana based sports fans
It’s pretty pathetic and you should reflect on how pathetic it is
Good luck
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