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re: How do the Saints restructure?

Posted on 1/18/21 at 1:47 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/18/21 at 1:47 pm to
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If Drew Brees retires as expected, the Saints would free up $13.5 million

i believe they can designate this post June 1 which bumps that to $25M (it just adds more dead money to 2022, which is how we do things)

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Again, with a two-tier bonus structure, let's say the Saints reduce each of their 2021 cap holds to $5 million. While they have spent hundreds of millions of dollars, they've now freed up $11.3

they can get both much lower than $5M if necessary

and i love the "while they have spent hundreds of millions of dollars" as if they spent that to free up the $11M and not to re-sign 2 studs

Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 1/18/21 at 2:07 pm to
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I have an aunt that’s in the real estate business and I heard that D Watson’s wife has been looking at homes on the lakefront


Don’t do this to yourself. Saints would have to sell half their team to afford Watson.

Also, I doubt he’d subject himself to the treatment Brees received from the fanbase this summer.
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 1/18/21 at 2:42 pm to
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designating Brees a post June 1 cut saves $25M alone


So that brings you down to $75 million with no starting QB.

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if we did the same for Armstead that's another $11.75M


So that gets you to $63 million with no starting LT.

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restructure Kwon to get his $13M hit to $1M (or we can cut him)


$50 million and down a starting LB.

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re-sign Ram to get his $11M his to $1


Literally can’t do to the CBA, but let’s say you can make your other OT go against his best interest that’s still $40 million over.

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Latt is like Ram and over $10M that can be restructured lower with a new deal.



Kicking the can is what you put you in this situation.

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cutting Eason post June 1 saves $6.5M

cutting Malcom Brown post June 1 saves $5M


So all those moves and you are still $30 million over the cap and lost significant contributors. Not to mention that you are factoring in the dead cap space from the moves above.

The math doesn’t work son. You are also counting on Pro Bowl/all pro players to take less money in their prime seasons because reasons.
This post was edited on 1/18/21 at 3:19 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:05 pm to
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So that brings you down to $75 million with no starting QB.

we have hill. we can easily be mediocre or possibly pretty good with hill for a year. supposedly we may backload Jameis and if he agrees, we're contenders

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So that gets you to $63 million with no starting LT.

Peat moves to LT and Ruiz starts

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$50 million and down a starting LB.

he only started for us for like 3 games i think

HOW WILL WE AVOID THE REBUILD WITHOUT HIM?!?!?

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Kicking the can is what you put you in this situation.

we're "in this situation" every year

some day we will have to face the music but it will be a while from now and only be bad for 1 year. we've been in worse positions

hell we cute junior gallette and ate almost his entire signing bonus AND traded Jimmy Graham and ate almost his entire signing bonus in one offseason

also, re-signing young guys is not "kicking the can down the road"

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So all those moves and you are still $30 million over the cap and lost significant contributors.

the only real impactful starter lost (other than Brees) is Armstead. we're also going to lose Henrickson b/c we can't afford to re-sign him. that's what happens when you have one of the top 3 loaded rosters in the NFL. you can't keep everyone

$30M is nothing. not with base salaries like Taysom Hill ($10.2M), Janoris Jenkins ($10.0M), Peat ($9.0M), Onyematta ($7.0M), Jordan ($11.9M), and Thomas ($12.6M)
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:05 pm to
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You are also counting on Pro Bowl/all pro players to take lose money in their prime seasons because reasons.

no I'm not. this is the definition of a strawman
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:09 pm to
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Also, I doubt he’d subject himself to the treatment Brees received from the fanbase this summer.



You think that was a 'unique to New Orleans' sort of reaction?
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:22 pm to
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no I'm not. this is the definition of a strawman


Lol you don’t even remember your own bad recommendations.

The sooner you accept that your front office is going to have to blow it up and the Aints are going to be 4th in the NFC South in 2021 and likely 2022 as well while they rebuild, the better off you’ll be. Deny it, run from it, ignore it, it’s still going to happen all the same.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:24 pm to
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Lol you don’t even remember your own bad recommendations.

i don't think you understand my recommendations
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:29 pm to
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i don't see why the Saints need to rebuild look how good we've been the past 3 years with a mediocre-bad QB


This is why im kinda excited tbh

Seanathan with AK plus a good defense is an excellent base.
Posted by CunningLinguist
Dallas, TX
Member since Mar 2006
19239 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:29 pm to
Not sure how but they just need to blow it up as much as possible in 2021. Saints have a great front office and good coach in Peyton. They will be fine long term. It is going to be painful next year and just lean into that.
Posted by charlottetiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:32 pm to
If I’m not mistaken, Winston is a free agent and could likely be gone. However, another FA is Matthew Stafford, who still has a deep ball that Brees has lacked for 2 full seasons now.

Stafford to NOLA?
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:32 pm to
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i don't think you understand my recommendations


I understand that you copied someone else’s ideas, passed them off as your own and then tossed in a whole bunch of shite that has zero chance of happening and think you’ve magically fixed a situation with bullshite that wouldn’t even work on Madden.

Face it dude, your team drafted well and then shite it all away by committing 20% of your cap space to a washed old QB and overpriced veterans. You mortgaged your future for a 3 year window that took you nowhere and now the bills come due.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:33 pm to
that 2015 offseason was so terrible. we had to eat all the Graham and Galette dead money immediately and hadn't drafted well

the difference this year is that Ireland has been absurd in the draft since we've had him
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
477263 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:35 pm to
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I understand that you copied someone else’s ideas

wrong

i did use data from OTC for my numbers

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and think you’ve magically fixed a situation with bullshite that wouldn’t even work on Madden.

current Madden has legit terrible, 3rd grade contracts. so no you couldn't fix it on this Madden

now back in like 06? yeah, you could

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Face it dude, your team drafted well and then shite it all away by committing 20% of your cap space to a washed old QB and overpriced veterans. You mortgaged your future for a 3 year window that took you nowhere and now the bills come due.

oh wow

i am so threatened by shite-talking from a person who legit has no idea what they're talking about and just proved it once again

how will i ever recover from an imbecile trying to explain things he doesn't comprehend?
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
39223 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:38 pm to
Don’t take the bait

His shtick is to be a contrarian on the MSB
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:38 pm to
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If I’m not mistaken, Winston is a free agent and could likely be gone. However, another FA is Matthew Stafford, who still has a deep ball that Brees has lacked for 2 full seasons now.

Stafford to NOLA?


Other than the fact that you have no means to acquire him nor the ability to pay him, sounds like a great plan.
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:41 pm to
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His shtick is to be a contrarian on the MSB


If being proven consistently right while this board is consistently wrong makes me a contrarian then I’ll gladly accept that label.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477263 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:46 pm to
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If being proven consistently right

can you point out where i said players had to take a paycut?
Posted by hg
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Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:49 pm to
This is the same guy that claims Lamar Jackson is a better quarterback than Deshaun Watson.
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
39223 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:51 pm to
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If being proven consistently right while this board is consistently wrong makes me a contrarian then I’ll gladly accept that label.


What you’re doing here is nothing more than an extension of the SEC Rant

Grasping at straws to do anything it takes to piss off Louisiana based sports fans

It’s pretty pathetic and you should reflect on how pathetic it is

Good luck
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