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re: Has the leash become too short for college football coaches?
Posted on 11/22/21 at 7:10 am to Feral
Posted on 11/22/21 at 7:10 am to Feral
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because ADs are getting played over and over again by agents.
Are they really though???… CFB big business…AD hands tied if he wants to prove to the fan base he serious about winning… more football people need to be involved in the hiring process… it’s plenty capable assistants who will never get the chance now because the fan base requires a big name…
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Posted on 11/22/21 at 7:17 am to SA4LSU
Yes it’s too short, but the real issue is team’s quitting on the coach and players quitting on the season.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 7:44 am to SA4LSU
Tom Herman should have coached this year. Texas is getting what it deserves. Texas Tech won’t get much better. Mullen probably should have been fired. O is going out at right time. Nebraska is giving Frost one more year which I think is the right call. A lot of close losses for the Huskers. USC made the right call although Helton was a poor choice to begin with.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 8:15 am to SA4LSU
Every teams fans think they’ll replicate Sabans success. The problem is there is only one Saban. I expect Florida and LSU to be looking for another coach in 3-5 years. When Georgia loses to Alabama in the SEC championship game they’ll come off their high horse also.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 8:41 am to TrouserTrout
Everyone is right about how the job has changed and the early signing period and the transfer portal alone or game changers in regards to how it impacts the head coaches job
Posted on 11/22/21 at 8:58 am to BZ504
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Nebraska is giving Frost one more year which I think is the right call. A lot of close losses for the Huskers.
I agree with this. They're having horrible luck in close games this year. If that even remotely starts to correct itself next year, his arrow will start pointing up. Their record doesn't show it but that is a significantly better team now than it was when Frost got there.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 6:56 pm to VADawg
In my opinion Frost should have been let go before some of these others like Herman.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 7:45 pm to SA4LSU
its the internet.
now alumni can zoom and organize. email. fb.
before you had a few phone calls.
now every move is magnified.
oh heck in private becomes rerunning the play and making gifs.
as communication vastly improved the pressure grew and spotlight grew brighter.
now theres zero tolerance.
now alumni can zoom and organize. email. fb.
before you had a few phone calls.
now every move is magnified.
oh heck in private becomes rerunning the play and making gifs.
as communication vastly improved the pressure grew and spotlight grew brighter.
now theres zero tolerance.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 11:06 pm to chinese58
quote:I think Miles and Richt were direct results of Saban envy. They both ran programs that were monotonously winning at a very high percentage every year, were penciled into the rankings (probably years in advance), and to boot were running just 2 of some very dominant programs in their conference (you also had Urban doing his thing at Fla, Tuberville over at Auburn, etc).
I think most fan bases would settle for Les Miles results.
Or Georgia results under Mark Richt, excluding 2010, with a Natty, or two, mixed in.
But people saw Saban win the title damn near every year, said "THAT'S what we want!", and proceeded to crank up the heat on those guys.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 11:18 pm to RLDSC FAN
There are places you can take 13 years to rebuild.
You just aren’t gonna get paid 8 mil a year.
You just aren’t gonna get paid 8 mil a year.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 11:23 pm to SA4LSU
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In my opinion Frost should have been let go before some of these others like Herman
The amazing part of the Nebraska fiasco of the last few years isn’t that frost is still there. It’s that Trev Alberts is the AD and gets to make the call.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 11:46 pm to SA4LSU
Its sort of always been that way at the big programs.
John McKay:
In his first two seasons as head coach, McKay's teams enjoyed little success, going 4–6 in 1960, and 4–5–1 in 1961.
Heading into the 1962 season, McKay felt he might be fired by university president Norman Topping; alumni were pressuring Topping to fire McKay, but Topping resisted and gave McKay one more year so he could field a team with players he had recruited.
In 1962, McKay guided USC to an 11–0 record and a national championship.
So, he had to fight for his job and win big in year 3.
John McKay:
In his first two seasons as head coach, McKay's teams enjoyed little success, going 4–6 in 1960, and 4–5–1 in 1961.
Heading into the 1962 season, McKay felt he might be fired by university president Norman Topping; alumni were pressuring Topping to fire McKay, but Topping resisted and gave McKay one more year so he could field a team with players he had recruited.
In 1962, McKay guided USC to an 11–0 record and a national championship.
So, he had to fight for his job and win big in year 3.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 3:09 am to JJ27
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look how they finished last year
Giving Bama their best game of the year in the SECCG?
That’s a ridiculously fast hook a year after being in the SECCG. Delusional expectations.
Exactly and on top of it even when all his players quit he just stayed quiet and took it on the chin. That bowl game was an impossible situation for him.
This post was edited on 11/23/21 at 3:12 am
Posted on 11/23/21 at 8:19 am to SA4LSU
I think watching teams quit on their coaches repeatedly is one of the main reasons they are getting fired
Posted on 11/23/21 at 10:42 am to Scoob
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But people saw Saban win the title damn near every year, said "THAT'S what we want!", and proceeded to crank up the heat on those guys.
What you didn’t say was that Miles and Richt coached at places that you could conceivably recreate Saban’s results… not everyone should be held up to Alabama’s standard, but LSU and Georgia as two of the best jobs in college football absolutely can be
Posted on 11/23/21 at 10:57 am to chalmetteowl
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What you didn’t say was that Miles and Richt coached at places that you could conceivably recreate Saban’s results… not everyone should be held up to Alabama’s standard, but LSU and Georgia as two of the best jobs in college football absolutely can be
Richt coached UGA for 14 years. Let's not pretend like that is a "short leash". He was given every opportunity and did pretty damn well but it was time for them to move on.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 11:54 am to Gaggle
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Constant out with the old, in with the new. And we wonder why it's such a a dirty game.
There’s little girls on here that call players a bust after one season or ready to fire a coach after one bad year
Posted on 11/23/21 at 1:13 pm to kisatchie53
All the familiar faces all have short leashes….. in today’s society it’s a win NOW mentality. Bama, Clemson,UGA, Ohio St. Oklahoma. All these programs lose at most two games a year. LSU and Fla are decent overall programs but the administration and boosters and fans have a lot more say in how things shake out…….
Posted on 11/23/21 at 1:59 pm to JJ27
Florida is 5-9 in their last sixteen games. Four victories were against Florida Atlantic, South Florida, Vanderbilt, and Samford.
In last ten games against LSU and Bama twice, Georgia, Tennessee, South Carolina, Kentucky, Missouri, and Oklahoma the gators won once.
In last ten games against LSU and Bama twice, Georgia, Tennessee, South Carolina, Kentucky, Missouri, and Oklahoma the gators won once.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 7:12 pm to TigerintheNO
Where will Mullen land?
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