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re: Former NFL WR Santonio Holmes Says Artificial Turf is Causing Rash of Football Injuries

Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:30 am to
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
17716 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:30 am to
quote:

“I ended my career playing on that bulls---. Turf is a trash, worst thing to ever happen to football,” he said.




Hes 10000000%%% correct
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94742 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:34 am to
A guy who used to play at Heinz Field, one of the worst grass fields in the league, talking shite about turf stadiums is rich.

Heinz is notorious for drainage issues and bad field conditions.
Posted by StupidBinder
Jawja
Member since Oct 2017
6392 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:51 am to
I feel like the whole anti-turf thing is oversold, particularly with the new stuff.

Astroturf? Yeah that crap was awful but no one plays on that anymore. If you wear the right spikes turf is fine.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
31460 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:59 am to
I feel like technology has advanced enough to where we can do better than what we currently use. But with the way nfl stadiums are set up, I don’t know how some places would use real grass? It’s not feasible for some teams.


Still, I think the turf/grass is only part of the issue. Guys getting hit below the knees at a much higher rate is another issue because of the flags for “targeting”. Athletes being bigger and faster doesn’t help either. It’s not just grass/turf. But I do think something can be done about making the playing surface better.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 11:02 am to
quote:

Turf is Causing Rash of Football Injuries


Well duh,, no shite

This has been the case since inception. Why is this any type of revelation?
Posted by GeauxColonels
Tottenham Fan | LSU Fan
Member since Oct 2009
25604 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

According to the Colts website, at least 23 of the 32 NFL stadiums use the same turf as their stadium.


quote:

I thought roughly half of NFL stadiums had real grass.

I count 15 natural fields
- Arizona
- Baltimore
- Chicago
- Cleveland
- Denver
- Jacksonville
- Kansas City
- Las Vegas
- Philadelphia
- Miami
- San Francisco
- Tampa Bay
- Pittsburgh
- Washington
- Tennessee


The author of that article misquoted the Colts' website (shocking, I know). I believe that "more than 23" teams use the turf in either their stadiums or practice facilities.

quote:

A: The stadium has 95,000 square feet of a synthetic turf called Fieldturf as the playing surface. More than 23 of the NFL's 32 teams use this turf.
This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 12:23 pm
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
48733 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 12:25 pm to
Lambeau is SIS Grass. It's not turf.

SISGrass is a 95% natural grass pitch that gives you more playing hours and faster pitch recovery

LINK
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
8583 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 12:35 pm to
This past weekend, it appeared that not-grass was a problem because the "sand" in it went flying especially near the sidelines and the cleats just couldn't get a grip.

We sort of know how real turf works and gets worked on through the season, but what treatment is given to the false green and the sand to make sure that there's not so much sand that the cleats can't get into the substrate?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64451 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

According to the Colts website, at least 23 of the 32 NFL stadiums use the same turf as their stadium.


seriously?

Titans
Packers
Bears
Chiefs
Raiders
Broncos
Redskins
Browns
Dolphins
49ers
Ravens
Bucaneers
Cardinals
Jaguars

all play on natural grass. That's 14 teams out of 32 NFL teams. That means only 18 play on some form of turf, and they don't all use the same surface as the Colts
Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
10921 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 1:31 pm to
Welcome to 40 years ago Santonio.

Football is meant to be played on grass.
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
36156 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 1:38 pm to
Turf is fine for high schools and municipal parks, where limited resources (both labor and financial) can make it difficult to maintain a quality grass field.

There should be zero Power 5/NFL stadiums with turf.
Posted by lsudave1
Baton Metairie
Member since Jan 2005
7208 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:31 pm to


Bring it back!
Posted by Dixie Normus
Earth
Member since Sep 2013
2628 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:47 pm to
While I didn’t play on it a lot, my only injury in high school occurred on a turf field. Non-contact strain in my hip flexor. No idea if it’s just a coincidence though.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29095 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:59 pm to
quote:

There should be zero Power 5/NFL stadiums with turf.


Put grass in the Superdome and see how long that lasts.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28026 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 3:17 pm to
quote:

field turf was the worst


it was literally thin layer of fake carpet on concrete. It was a mcl/acl/etc killer.

Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
36156 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 3:22 pm to
quote:

Put grass in the Superdome and see how long that lasts.


Grass can be grown outdoors and brought in ala Arizona.

Even if that's not feasible for the Superdome or any other indoor venues, fine, then amend the sentence so "outdoor" is between zero and Power.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98396 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 5:41 pm to
quote:

Santonio never played at the Vet in Philly


Many a professional career died there (football and baseball)
Posted by Tvilletiger
PVB
Member since Oct 2015
4725 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 5:57 pm to
They had so much paint on that field I what amazing. My daughter was like they just left the colts logo on there and covered it up,
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30233 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 7:06 pm to
quote:

astroturf


I’ve never played in any artificial surface but I remember that astroturf was like a rubber mat over cement. I couldn’t imagine playing a football game on that garbage.

Remember Wendell Davis? Unbelievably talented and set records at LSU. Went on the play for the Eagles and had two major injuries that ended his career after 2 years. People blamed Astroturf for his injuries. The field at Philly was notoriously rough on players.
This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 7:10 pm
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
10372 posts
Posted on 1/12/22 at 7:09 am to
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This post was edited on 1/12/22 at 7:42 am
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