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re: Florida State discussing future in ACC after CFP snub
Posted on 12/21/23 at 8:37 am to Buckeye Backer
Posted on 12/21/23 at 8:37 am to Buckeye Backer
quote:OK
To the SEC:
Clemson
NC State
Virginia Tech
Louisville
Georgia Tech
Dilution
Dilution
Dilution
Dilution
Clemson FSU and UNC are the assets the SEC would want. The other 11 schools would not make for a stronger conference
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Posted on 12/21/23 at 8:41 am to cattus
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Don't particularly like people saying FSU is leaving because of the snub. They were already talking of leaving the ACC and if anything some think they were snubbed because of it.
The main reason I don't like it is because it attempts to exonerate the awful and unprecedented action by the committee.
Which also had an ACC flare to it. See Chairman.
With 12 teams coming to a football field near you soon, why would you want to leave such an easy entry into the Playoff? The ACC just ain't that hard, the SEC, is a death march. The Pac-12 just gave up an automatic bid and an easier path to join a dogfight in the B1G. Same with Texas and Oklahoma. They had almost a bye into the playoff every year compared to where they are standing.
Soon, many teams will be like Arkansas, wishing for the ole Southwest days.
Posted on 12/21/23 at 9:04 am to fastlane
FSU had the chance to join the SEC decades ago and declined largely because they estimated that their NC chances would be increased if they remained in the ACC.
That calculation has backfired this season.
That calculation has backfired this season.
Posted on 12/21/23 at 9:25 am to bamameister
quote:Death march to win the SEC? Sure. But if the 12-team playoff started this year the SEC would've gotten 5 teams in. If they're afraid of coming in 6th then they belong right where they are
With 12 teams coming to a football field near you soon, why would you want to leave such an easy entry into the Playoff? The ACC just ain't that hard, the SEC, is a death march. The Pac-12 just gave up an automatic bid and an easier path to join a dogfight in the B1G. Same with Texas and Oklahoma. They had almost a bye into the playoff every year compared to where they are standing.
And since the SEC and Big 10 will be taking all of the at-large spots going forward, they'd need to win the conference every year if they want in. And then when they do get to the playoff, every time they'd be the least battle-tested team by far
This post was edited on 12/21/23 at 9:28 am
Posted on 12/21/23 at 9:47 am to fastlane
Meeting scheduled for Friday
Posted on 12/21/23 at 10:00 am to fastlane
quote:
Meeting scheduled for Friday
With the ACC Grant of Rights, FSU is going to need a better lawyer than the one currently doing all the talking.
Posted on 12/21/23 at 10:25 am to RemouladeSawce
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OK
Dilution
Dilution
Dilution
Dilution
Fla St, North Carolina, Duke and Virginia…NONE of those schools are taking LESS money to join the SEC over the B1G. I know y’all don’t want to hear it or believe it…but It’s that simple. The next big wave of realignment will be ACC schools to the B1G. It’s simple math and exposure the B1G has more money and exposure than anybody else moving forward. B1G being on FOX, CBS and NBC with stacks of cash.
Posted on 12/21/23 at 10:41 am to RemouladeSawce
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But if the 12-team playoff started this year the SEC would've gotten 5 teams in.
People need to stop with this. You can’t just take the final rankings and say, “well if this were next year 5 of these would be SEC.”
That assumes that UT would be 11-1 playing a full SEC slate. It also assumes that the committee would allow for 5 SEC teams. We know they manipulated the rankings as is.
Posted on 12/21/23 at 10:47 am to GoGators1995
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A 1 loss team with a harder schedule getting in over an undefeated team has happened before.
Not an undefeated Power 5
And not because of an injury
Hence why it’s complete horse shite
Posted on 12/21/23 at 10:57 am to fastlane
If they end up with a 48-64 new super division, they should just get rid of conferences altogether.
Do it like the English soccer league and relegate the worst teams to FBS.
Do it like the English soccer league and relegate the worst teams to FBS.
Posted on 12/21/23 at 11:15 am to Limitlesstigers
[Auerbach] Florida State Trustee Justin Roth called for FSU to make and execute an exit plan to get out of the ACC by August 2024.
Posted on 12/21/23 at 11:16 am to RemouladeSawce
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Clemson FSU and UNC are the assets the SEC would want.
I'm not even sure about that. I think the SEC will stay at 16 for a while.
Posted on 12/21/23 at 11:33 am to OleVaught14
FSU still hasn't answered where the $120 million to leave is coming from.
Until that happens all of this is talk.
Until that happens all of this is talk.
Posted on 12/21/23 at 11:48 am to Champagne
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FSU had the chance to join the SEC decades ago and declined largely because they estimated that their NC chances would be increased if they remained in the ACC. That calculation has backfired this season.
Not really. They wouldn’t be 12-0 in the SEC.
Posted on 12/21/23 at 12:00 pm to Buckeye Backer
Notre Dame needs the ACC to survive. They will make it happen. If FSU leaves I bet it won’t be to the SEC.
Posted on 12/21/23 at 12:06 pm to FirstCityDawg
LINK
Dellenger update.
With FSU Board approval, legal experts believe that the school will seek a "declaratory judgement action" in an effort to have a judge rule that it is not bound by the ACC's Grant-of-Rights.
Such a ruling could open the door for more programs to exit
Im not sure why they wouldn't be bound since they signed a contract. But hey good luck I guess.
Dellenger update.
With FSU Board approval, legal experts believe that the school will seek a "declaratory judgement action" in an effort to have a judge rule that it is not bound by the ACC's Grant-of-Rights.
Such a ruling could open the door for more programs to exit
Im not sure why they wouldn't be bound since they signed a contract. But hey good luck I guess.
This post was edited on 12/21/23 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 12/21/23 at 12:14 pm to jfan244888
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Im not sure why they wouldn't be bound since they signed a contract. But hey good luck I guess.
They'll argue that circumstances have materially changed - happens all the time in the corporate world (with varying levels of success).
Posted on 12/21/23 at 12:18 pm to OleVaught14
Honestly, what does the ACC have to lose by merging with the Big 12? The first official super conference, and will have legit brands within it.
Posted on 12/21/23 at 12:32 pm to OleVaught14
quote:
They'll argue that circumstances have materially changed
Have they changed that much though?
Posted on 12/21/23 at 12:34 pm to Champagne
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FSU had the chance to join the SEC decades ago and declined largely because they estimated that their NC chances would be increased if they remained in the ACC.
They’ve won three national titles since then and played in four more NC games plus the inaugural CFP. I’d say they were correct.
This post was edited on 12/21/23 at 12:35 pm
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