Started By
Message

re: Did programs dodge a bullet by missing on Matt Campbell?

Posted on 11/26/22 at 7:33 pm to
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
29168 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 7:33 pm to
It’s Iowa state. But he’s probably better suited for a developmental program.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
12061 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 7:43 pm to
In the last 20 or so years they have been much better. No way a good coach should have them at 4-8.

3-9
8-5
8-5
7-6
9-3, 8-1
7-6, 5-4
4-8 1-8

He was a flash in the pan his first few years and is on a big time downward trajectory. Numbers speak for themselves.
Posted by Bama Bird
Member since Dec 2011
Member since Mar 2013
19089 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 7:58 pm to
quote:

Teams are allowed to have down seasons. Especially at Iowa State.


Everyone needs to remember that Chizik went 5-19 and ISU fans were upset about him leaving
Posted by multicampus
Member since Oct 2021
1191 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 8:04 pm to
Here's their year by year record:

LINK
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
12061 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 8:20 pm to
Yea I know.
Posted by cymark
Member since Oct 2015
149 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 8:21 pm to
Oh, no we weren’t. Auburn through us a life line with that.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
12061 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 8:21 pm to
quote:

Everyone needs to remember that Chizik went 5-19 and ISU fans were upset about him leaving


Lol. Because they’re dumb
Posted by 88Wildcat
Topeka, Ks
Member since Jul 2017
13982 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 8:22 pm to
quote:

I'm not saying he's good or bad. Just asking questions to see what others think. I do know he's went 7-6,9-3,7-6, and 4-8 the last four years. That's 27-23. That's not a great coach. That's an ok coach.


That's not a good coach at LSU, Alabama, Texas, Michigan, Ohio St., USC, etc. That is a good coach at Iowa State. You are talking about a football program that hasn't had a player drafted in the first round in about fifty years.
Posted by CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
Member since Dec 2014
17359 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 1:11 am to
I had forgotten how bad Chizik was there.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
15924 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 2:01 am to
quote:

Iowa St has been pretty good the last 20 years. 4-8 is a testament to how he’s not living up to the hype.

Good grief, Campbell has been so good at Iowa State that people actually believe they were "pretty good" before him.

Entering the TCU game this weekend, they had the best defense in the Big XII and hadn't lost a game by more than one score. In fact, it has been rare for Campbell's teams to be blown out during his tenure.

How Iowa State even managed to hang in most games with all they lost on offense is a testament to Campbell's coaching ability. Most programs would still be happy to have him.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43927 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 2:06 am to
quote:

Still, a great coach would do better there. He's an ok coach. That's not a dumb take. His record is mediocre.




State fans would have built Dan Mullen a statue had he stayed in Starkville and his record was worse than Campbells.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43927 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 2:10 am to
quote:

In the last 20 or so years they have been much better. No way a good coach should have them at 4-8.

3-9
8-5
8-5
7-6
9-3,
8-1
7-6, 5-4
4-8 1-8


Hes averaging 8 wins a season there. What were the averaging the years before he got there?

ETA:

2003: 2-10
2004: 7-5
2005: 7-5
2006: 4-8
2007: 3-9
2008: 2-10
2009: 7-6
2010: 5-7
2011: 6-7
2012: 6-7
2013: 3-9
2014: 2-10
2015: 3-9
2016: 3-9
2017: 8-5
2018: 8-5
2019: 7-6
2020: 9-3
2021: 7-6
2022: 4-8

They have had 8 winning seasons in the last 20 years, Campbell was the coach for 5 of them.

In the last 20 years, they were 57-102 without Campbell. They are 46-42 with Campbell. The only reason they been “pretty good” for the last 20 years is because of the Campbell years.

He’s a good coach.
This post was edited on 11/27/22 at 2:31 am
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
32988 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 7:56 am to
That dude has to be trolling. Campbell has built a decent program in a major conference on a team that has been historically bad. He’s a good coach.

Now I’m not sure how he would be at a big school with big expectations like an Oklahoma or Michigan, etc. but I think he would clean up at a place like Cincinnati or USF. Similar to a Mullen.
Posted by msudawg1200
Central Mississippi
Member since Jun 2014
9438 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 8:00 am to
quote:

That dude has to be trolling. Campbell has built a decent program in a major conference on a team that has been historically bad. He’s a good coach. Now I’m not sure how he would be at a big school with big expectations like an Oklahoma or Michigan, etc. but I think he would clean up at a place like Cincinnati or USF. Similar to a Mullen.

So, you're saying he is similar to Mullen? Then he is an ok, above average coach not great. Your post actually agrees with what I'm saying. Could coach at an Iowa St, MS State, Louisville, etc,,and win 7-8 a year but not on the level for a Michigan, Bama, USC, Ohio St, etc.
This post was edited on 11/27/22 at 8:01 am
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
32988 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 8:08 am to
quote:

So, you're saying he is similar to Mullen? Then he is an ok, above average coach not great.


No, I’m saying that remains to be seen. Not every coach is cut out to be Nick Saban at a big name program. Campbell may or may not be that type of coach. But that doesn’t make him a bad or mediocre coach. He’s done a great, awesome, amazing job where he is at. He’s a really good coach.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
12061 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 8:12 am to
quote:

Entering the TCU game this weekend, they had the best defense in the Big XII and hadn't lost a game by more than one score.


They are 1-8 in conference lol

Also lost by 14 to 6-6 Oklahoma
This post was edited on 11/27/22 at 8:15 am
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
12061 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 8:24 am to
quote:

He’s done a great, awesome, amazing job where he is at. He’s a really good coach.


Ehhhhhhh. Let’s pump the brakes here. He’s had 3 good years, 2 mediocre ones, and 2 bad ones so far in his 7 years. What’s most alarming is the really bad trend in his last three seasons. This season will tie for their worst conference finish in the last 20 years also.

9-3, 8-1
7-6, 5-4
4-8 1-8

Hot name out the gate for sure. But that’s worrisome.
Posted by double d
Amarillo by morning
Member since Jun 2004
16450 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 8:26 am to
They were down 14 to 6-6 Baylor at home and scored a touchdown in the last minute to make it look closer.
Posted by msudawg1200
Central Mississippi
Member since Jun 2014
9438 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 9:04 am to
He's on the level with PJ Fleck. Won in the MAC, got mid-level P5 job, talked about as the next great young coach, and current program has stagnated or taken a step back in the last few years. Good, above average coach. Major players(USC, Florida, LSU, etc.) dodged a bullet.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59130 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 9:09 am to
quote:

won't be getting any offers now. 4-8 from supposedly a good coach is pathetic.




What a disaster it’s been for LSU hiring Brian Kelly
first pageprev pagePage 2 of 3Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitterInstagram