Did BCS/modern era Notre Dame still have higher academic requirements for recruits?

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I seem to recall the last time we played them when Fournet was playing we lost.

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We lost that game, but we also lost to them in the ‘17 season, Orgeron’s 1st. After the disasters is start that year, we miraculously rebounded and had a chance to finish with 10 wins going into the bowl. O wanted it too bad and coached way too tight with a puckered up a-hole. I think the. OST egregious one was kicking a field goal instead of going for a short 4th down that he normally would have.


To answer OP’s question, I think they lowered requirements for athletes to get in in the last decade or so. Still harder than most places, I believe, but not as hard as it used to be. They do, however, have to remain eligible to play, and I’m not sure they have a bunch of easy major curriculums like most P5 schools.

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I seem to recall the last time we played them when Fournet was playing we lost.

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Brian Kelly was 2-0 against LSU at Notre Dame. That time being the first game.

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Yes they still have the same higher academic requirements they have always had...

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Not completely true. Back in Holtz's days, the priests traded some academic integrity for more wins because of the Gerry Faust debacle. They didn't directly lower the standards; they just allow more exceptions. Tony Rice was a Prop 48 player, I believe.

Then the Kim Dunbar affair happened. Dunbar was in her mid twenties, a bookkeeper at a local business, and embezzled over a million dollars. She liked athletic studs and dated one or more football players. She bought gifts, took them on trips to Vegas, etc. This didn't raise an issue because she was their "girlfriend."

At the time ND used to have a luncheon with the coaches on Fridays before home games that anyone could attend by paying $25. Dunbar attended one, and this made her a booster. The NCAA didn't buy the girlfriend excuse especially since no one cared where she got the money to lavish the players.

The NCAA leveled ND with their first and maybe only NCAA recruiting violation. Really just gave them a slap on the wrist, but the Priests were embarrassed. It's really the reason Holtz retired.

Subsequently they reduced the exceptions and here we are.

I’m not sure why you received a bunch of DV’s, but I see nothing wrong or triggering with what you wrote… unless you’re wrong about the ND requirements, that idk.

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Notre Dame degrees are worth more. Rod West at Entergy has always said that having the ND diploma opened doors for him that other diplomas would not necessarily have opened

But you are wrong.

The academic standard for an athlete to enter ND vs LSU is very different. Is it the same standard for both ND students and ND athletes , no, but they will not take the athlete that makes the bare minimum NCAA /SEC requirements and that’s a fact.