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re: Deshaun Watson has officially requested a trade
Posted on 1/28/21 at 10:58 am to Bham Bammer
Posted on 1/28/21 at 10:58 am to Bham Bammer
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I can't see how they will get a king's ransom for him.
Depends on what your definition of kings ransom is, but they’ll be able to get a massive haul
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 11:00 am to wildtigercat93
Theoretically, yes, he would bring that. But in practice, is a team going to want to give up years worth of #1 and #2 picks for him? How do you improve your team when you have $40 million wrapped up in one player and no high picks?
Posted on 1/28/21 at 11:01 am to Bham Bammer
Considering Jack Easterby is going to be involved in the deal, they will trade him for some magic beans and some practice tees.
Watson likely wouldn’t be wanting out if Easterby and Bill O’Brien didn’t buy high on players like Tunstil then sell their other players like Hopkins for pennies, leaving them both without draft picks and without star players to go by Watson.
Watson likely wouldn’t be wanting out if Easterby and Bill O’Brien didn’t buy high on players like Tunstil then sell their other players like Hopkins for pennies, leaving them both without draft picks and without star players to go by Watson.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 11:02 am to Bham Bammer
Ask the Texans. These are the dumbasses who traded for Tunstil on a deal like that then dumped DeAndre Hopkins for pocket change.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 11:02 am to bad93ex
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Bill O'Brien purged a lot of talent from that team. Miami should be on the phone working on a deal to bring Watson into their franchise which includes 1st rd picks and Tua.
With the Phins draft haul, two firsts and Tua and Watson is easy. Pull the trigger yesterday.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 11:02 am to Bham Bammer
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Theoretically, yes, he would bring that. But in practice, is a team going to want to give up years worth of #1 and #2 picks for him? How do you improve your team when you have $40 million wrapped up in one player and no high picks?
Yes, some team will do it.
We’ve seen teams do it for the right to draft Jared Goff and RGIII. Teams will be lining up to try to get Watson.
If your roster is already built well, Watson makes you an instant Super Bowl contender and by the time that window has closed the well of picks you gave up has been replenished
This post was edited on 1/28/21 at 11:04 am
Posted on 1/28/21 at 11:04 am to teke184
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Considering Jack Easterby is going to be involved in the deal, they will trade him for some magic beans and some practice tees.
A man of faith must be included as well. Gotta have a victory, growth mindset. Definitely not a results mindset
fricking crazy talk
Posted on 1/28/21 at 11:09 am to Athos
He will end up in Miami.... and be a strong SB contender next year....
Posted on 1/28/21 at 11:14 am to Black n Gold
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Can someone educate me on the procedure for retiring. What happens if he unretires after a year? His contract picks right up where it left off, correct?
1) He couldn't afford to retire, he would have to pay back his signing bonus. Doubtful he has the money to do so. Even if he didn't spend a dime, Uncle Sam isn't giving him that 37% back.
2) if he would then unretire, it would be just like Gronk, Pats still had his rights.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 11:32 am to teke184
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There are Texan fans? No, there are football fans who happen to live in Houston.
The Texans don’t exactly have a fan base in part because they can’t or won’t associate with the former Oilers who were established in the area for so long.
The Texans still have (maybe had now) a very strong base locally. It’s still Houston where football is king.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 11:34 am to WestCoastAg
quote:Depends, does DeShaun Watson have integrity, or is his integrity level on par with James Harden?
what could possibly go wrong
He wants a trade, I'd consider every avenue and offer to trade him. I'd want a monster return. If I didn't get a monster return, I simply wouldn't move him. At that point, the ball is in his court, how does he want to be defined as a player?
If he wants to quit trying during games like Harden to force a trade, go for it. It'll end terribly ugly, likely with his team revolting against him, those dudes on the Oline aren't going to have the same reactions as John Wall if Watson goes that route.
If he wants to hold out, go for it. It wouldn't change my asking price as he has no leverage, he won't hold out for 4 years, so if you're the organization, that shouldn't play into your decision in any way, he would come back and play football for Houston.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 11:35 am to VADawg
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I agree. Do not let the NFL become the NBA where star players can whine their way to another team.
It already is becoming basketball. I.e. Jamal Adams.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 11:40 am to PrimeTime Money
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I got an idea. Call his bluff. Don’t trade him.
He just signed a 4 year contract extension. Now that he secured the bag he’s gonna request a trade?
Call his bluff. Texans own his arse until 2026.
I know I wouldn't want a disgruntled star playing for me and giving half arse effort. I don't think the Texans will have a choice but to get rid of him.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 11:41 am to topcat88
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It already is becoming basketball. I.e. Jamal Adams.
Getting 2 first round picks for a safety is pretty damn good value. I don’t see how that’s a bad thing for anyone involved
Posted on 1/28/21 at 11:49 am to brmark70816
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I believe this is a god send. They just had a horrible year and the team's payroll is a mess. They have a new GM, new coach, they need to reset and start over. Watson is already a malcontent. Better to move on now while he has a ton of value. Trade Watt too and anybody else they can get value from.
It's a godsend if they get a huge package in return, like 3 1st round picks and a young talented player.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 12:19 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
quote:Those aren't the only scenarios.
Or he shows up and makes life miserable for everyone. Either way it’s not a good scenario for the Texans
He could also man up, and while still being unhappy, not be a fricktard that makes life miserable for everyone else, and just stays quiet and shows up to work and does his job. He can also do that, that IS an option.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 12:20 pm to VADawg
If he holds out, he could lose his entire signing bonus money under the new CBA. Watson really has no leverage here unless he decides to actually sit out and be ok with giving up the bonus.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 12:26 pm to saintsfan22
quote:No one is claiming otherwise, we've all laughed and mocked the Texans, I get that.
They aren't taking positive steps to improve things.
But he signed his contract 4 months ago. If you can't give the organization more than 4 months to set a plan to right the ship, then that's a you problem.
Things like really shitty trades like moving Nuke, hey Watson knew that, that happened before he signed his extension, so we can't turn around and use those as examples for how badly the Texans have done him and should trade him.
Watson knew of the shite show, but he still wanted to secure his money AND then decide where he goes afterwards. That's not how it works. If the team doesn't want to trade him, he'll be back and playing for the Texans next season, and further, for as much as a shite show as HOU has been, this part of the shite show will 100% be Watson's fault. So now he can't even really complain about that as he's guilty of the same thing.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 12:30 pm to Bham Bammer
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Theoretically, yes, he would bring that. But in practice, is a team going to want to give up years worth of #1 and #2 picks for him? How do you improve your team when you have $40 million wrapped up in one player and no high picks?
A lot of teams. This is a QB driven league, and if the team believes he can be a consistent top 5 type for 15 years... it's well worth it.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 12:39 pm to Bham Bammer
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I can't see how they will get a king's ransom for him.
They get two teams (Jets and Dolphins) into a bidding war for him. Both have two firsts this year, and a young QB they could throw in. Jets have two firsts next year, Dolphins have one.
If they can pull in three firsts + the QB + probably some later round picks, you'd have to consider it if you're Houston at this point. You hold the leverage, but if you keep someone who is unhappy you can destroy the team even more. Plus you get labeled as a team that isn't friendly to their plays (aka the Bengals).
It's a tough situation, but you basically have to hope the Jets and Dolphins start bidding against each other.
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