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re: DAT 7/31: Tampa Bay (Cobb) @ Houston (Morton) 7:10 CT - DEADLINE DAY EDITION

Posted on 7/31/17 at 3:00 pm to
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
28795 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 3:00 pm to
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Look at the Quintana and Gray trades. Look at Madson and Doolittle. We could have easily pulled those off.


I don't understand why everyone thinks that everything is comparable from team to team.

That's not how it works, that's not how any of this works.
This post was edited on 7/31/17 at 3:01 pm
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
13023 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 3:00 pm to
aaaand... we're done.
Posted by iamAG
Member since Aug 2015
3517 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 3:00 pm to
So you think we trade everyone in two or three years? A rational person says hey even if we lose a springer we have a fisher.
Posted by iamAG
Member since Aug 2015
3517 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 3:01 pm to
Because they are emotional fools
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
95030 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 3:01 pm to
Yeah. I'll even criticize Luhnow for slow playing all of this.

Sort of inexcusable knowing that you have issues pitching. Liriano as a LOOGY is fine, I don't mind it but that's not enough. He obviously values these prospects more than any of us realize. Like a crazy cat woman hoarder.
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
13023 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 3:01 pm to
quote:

I don't understand why everyone thinks that everything is comparable from team to team.

That's not how it works, that's not how any of this works.


You've been on point all day tt38.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29595 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 3:01 pm to
I like the Liriano move, but elite pitching shuts down elite offense (e.g., Nola, Verlander just shite on us). Keuchel is fine, but we are basically wagering this year on Lance figuring it out.

And next 3-5 years are far from a given. Yanks emerging rapidly, Boston and Cleveland right there. Pretty disappointing.
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
28795 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 3:01 pm to
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That means we need to have a staff that can match that, not one that will give up runs and force us to win 9-7 every game. Make sense?


So adding Gray/Darvish gives us that ability?

ETA: You either assume DK and Lance are going to be fine, or adding another guy gets you nowhere.

The only pitching staff that scares me is Cleveland, (because we historically suck against them.

Boston can only run Sale out twice in a 7 game series.

We just beat Sonny Gray a month ago, and we've pounded the shite out of Yankees SP for 2 years now.
This post was edited on 7/31/17 at 3:06 pm
Posted by droman225
HTown by way of BR
Member since Aug 2011
13477 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 3:01 pm to
A rational person doesn't assume fisher will have the production springer does
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
108368 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 3:01 pm to
I respect what he did. For the wrong reasons.
Posted by msutiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 7/31/17 at 3:02 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/3/23 at 2:32 am
Posted by blake the kid
Member since Jun 2017
778 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 3:03 pm to
this ducking sucks
Posted by CQQ
Member since Feb 2006
17048 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 3:03 pm to
Now we get to hear Jeff tell us we were in a bunch of conversations but feel good with what we have
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
95030 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 3:03 pm to
I guess?

You get what you pay for. Luhnow isn't a penny pincher. He's a prospect pincher. No excuse for any of this. I'll be interested to hear his made exclusively for the media response as to why he didn't land anyone

"Just couldn't come to agreement with some teams. There were some options on the table but we felt that it wouldn't better our team for the future."
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
37808 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 3:03 pm to
quote:


And next 3-5 years are far from a given. Yanks emerging rapidly, Boston and Cleveland right there. Pretty disappointing.




Exactly.


Absolutely pathetic job by Luhnow.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
95030 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 3:04 pm to
With this lineup, it's a given that they are contending. I do agree with that
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
31026 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 3:04 pm to
Obligatory :It'sNotHappening:
Posted by iamAG
Member since Aug 2015
3517 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 3:04 pm to
Yes but a rational person also realizes that the WAR of springer and tucker for instance won't be large enough to make.....oh screw it...y'all just melt. I don't care if y'all melt hahah. Most people realize our windows more than two or three years. If you don't that's fine.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40361 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 3:04 pm to
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t elite pitching shuts down elite offense (e.g., Nola, Verlander just shite on us). Ke



I agree with your sentiment but missing Springer and Correa is a pretty big deal.
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37335 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 3:05 pm to
Yes, Gray and/or Darvish could help keep the opposition in the same 2-4 run ballpark as we would be vs their staffs.

You feel comfortable with LMJ, Peacock, and McHugh as our 2, 3, 4 in a series and holding the runs down when we aren't putting up 10 runs against a quality staff?
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