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re: DAT 7/30: Astros (Verlander) @ Indians (Bieber) 6:10 CT AT&T SW

Posted on 7/30/19 at 2:54 pm to
Posted by KirkLazarus
Member since Aug 2017
3574 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 2:54 pm to
Cole vs Bauer

Newport Beach vs North Hollywood
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94587 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 3:08 pm to
New look, full strength lineup. get fricked Indians

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Lineup is:

Springer
Altuve
Brantley
Bregman
Alvarez
Correa
Gurriel
Reddick
Chirinos
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31940 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 3:09 pm to
Article on Bauer


I think cole makes a point to not talk about it. However I can’t see anyone reading this article and thinking that’s someone we want to bring into the clubhouse mid season even ignoring the stuff about cole.



He rips teammates and organizations left and right causes rifts in the clubhouse etc.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
22351 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 3:10 pm to
I'm not afraid to admit that when the Verlander deal was confirmed, I woke up everyone in my house with excitement, went in the master bath, looked in the mirror, and had tears in my eyes.

Told my wife that the bastards finally did it. We were going to win the WS.

If that makes me less of a man, so be it.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101926 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

I think cole makes a point to not talk about it. However I can’t see anyone reading this article and thinking that’s someone we want to bring into the clubhouse mid season even ignoring the stuff about cole.



He rips teammates and organizations left and right causes rifts in the clubhouse etc.


I agree with this.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
22351 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 3:12 pm to
I have no problem with MadBum being our Aroldis Chapman (left Yankees to win WS w Cubs, then back to Yanks)
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101926 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 3:14 pm to
Let's just try not to give up a Gleyber Torres for him.


Although to be fair, the Cubs were really deep at MI prospects at the time.
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
25194 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 3:18 pm to
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Tom Eshelman is sitting 85-86 mph on his fastball. He's getting crushed. HR F2 HR 1B 2B


Yeesh
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 7/30/19 at 3:22 pm to



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He graduated high school half a year early, because he despised it, and enrolled at UCLA as a mechanical engineering major before the 2009 season. The team’s coach, John Savage, had told him he could continue to handle his own development and training as long as it kept working. 



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Another top pitching recruit, a strapping Orange County kid named Gerrit Cole, wasn’t on board. A few weeks into school, as Bauer tells it, Cole reamed him out in front of the whole team in the weight room for not following the same program as everybody else; while they lifted heavy weights, he did his own mobility exercises and wiggled his shoulder tube. “He told me in front of everybody that I had no future in baseball, that I didn’t work hard, and that I’m a p----,” Bauer says. “I was like, ‘F--- you, Gerrit.’?” 


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The two essentially didn’t talk for their remaining three years in Westwood—even when they were juniors, when Bauer had a 1.25 ERA and won the Golden Spikes award as the country’s best amateur. They didn’t talk even after Cole was drafted No. 1 overall by the Pirates in 2011 and Bauer went No. 3 to the Diamondbacks. They didn’t talk, in fact, until last year’s UCLA alumni game, when they chatted for 20 minutes about arbitration and Cole’s new team, the Astros. It was, Bauer reports, cordial. Cole said through a rep, “I have a role as a leader on any team I play for, and that is something I take great pride in. There is also a confidentiality with being a great teammate, which I will always uphold. It makes me happy to see fellow Bruins finding success, and they will forever be my teammates.”




Imagine the big data battle between Luhnow and Bauer

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The Indians tried to change him too, if more modestly. A few years ago, Bauer says, Mickey Callaway—then the Tribe’s pitching coach, now the Mets’ manager—berated him during batting practice for nearly an hour for refusing to throw more fastballs. Callaway had a point: Bauer’s career ERA was around 4.50. Bauer had a point too. “My process has been the same the entire time,” he says. “I’m going to try to find every single way to do better, and I’ve probably researched it more than you have. Don’t tell me what I do and don’t know without some good f---ing data behind it.”
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
53854 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 3:31 pm to
Don’t want that frick on this team.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
53854 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 3:32 pm to
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31940 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 3:32 pm to
I was more concerned with this stuff

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“I could’ve fixed Cody Allen’s curveball in two days last year, but I couldn’t tell him anything because he’s a veteran and he doesn’t want to listen,” Bauer says. Allen, the Indians’ former closer, saw his ERA rise from 2.90 to 4.70, and his free agency value plummet.


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Thereafter, Bauer would hole up in the Indians’ video room during Clevinger’s starts and call him in, even between innings, to diagnose his mechanical inefficiencies, a practice that Clevinger says upset the Indians’ coaching staff.



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He clashed with everyone: the front office, his managers, and the veteran catcher whom he kept shaking off during his first big league starts, Miguel Montero




The guy thinks a lot of himself while owning a career era just below 4



Particularly as a mid season acquisition this is problematic.
This post was edited on 7/30/19 at 3:33 pm
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60200 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 3:34 pm to
That lineup
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60200 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 3:37 pm to
Purely on the field I’m not convinced at all that Bauer will be better than someone like Wheeler the rest of this year if Wheeler is healthy. The question with Wheeler is health. Their numbers are very similar and I like Wheeler’s stuff better personally. The extra control with Bauer is great but you’re paying for that too
This post was edited on 7/30/19 at 3:38 pm
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 3:38 pm to
I mean obviously this shows that both could be successful and different at the same time. Although I can see being 18-19 years old and getting mad at each other
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 3:39 pm to
What if he is just very bright and correct, no issue with it. He is arrogant but if he can help why not. People are too proud of their ability and unwilling to listen to others.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31940 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 3:48 pm to
There’s plenty of guys out there who know baseball just as much as Trevor, had better careers than Trevor, and weren’t assholes about it.

He’s split teams from junior high on. It’s not an isolated thing.



ETA who would you want younger Yankees listening to-verlander or Bauer?
This post was edited on 7/30/19 at 3:50 pm
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
103114 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 3:48 pm to
Bauer has been proven correct that one size fits all pitcher development programs are not optimal for developing everyone. Individualized plans based on a detailed physiological assessment, strength assessment, mobility limitation, etc...are what smart teams do. Even the best college and HS teams do this now.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 3:50 pm to
The way he studies data I'm not sure, he was above the curve on teams and data. I wouldn't put it past him he understands more about it than the majority of players. You have plenty that understand the game and they've been great but understanding the numbers he has been ahead, since his UCLA/High School days

If he can fricking help Paxton or Happ figure out what is wrong with them go for it. Based on analytics the Yankees are among the games best now but if he can help I would hope someone would at least listen. Nothing wrong from hearing a peer try to help, we hear it all the time in other businesses.
This post was edited on 7/30/19 at 3:53 pm
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31940 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 3:56 pm to
Hope y’all get him then. I think the guys an immature a-hole and he would have been accepted sooner if he had gone about things a different way and certainly don’t want him molding the attitudes of the Astros up and comers. I honestly think the guy is on the spectrum.
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