re: DAT: 2017 World Champions Houston Astros offseason discussion: ASTROS ACQUIRE GERRIT COLE

I would agree that Keuchel is definitely gone after 2018, and I am fine with that, but I do know he and Strom are very close, and should the Astros decide to sniff in the general direction of his best offer, I could definitely see him staying at a discount if the Astros offered.

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We already dont have enough room in our rotation as it is.

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Which leads to the next point...who is Luhnow trading Jabroni to get? I think McHugh is going to get dealt because he is not going to fit the role of the long reliever, even if it is highly likely he'd get a bunch of starts with how injury prone DK/LMJ/Morton are. Besides, he deserves to be a full-time starter somewhere.

What we don't know is if trading him will help restock the farm or get another big league piece (bullpen?).

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TTownTiger

And it allows you to dump Jabroni for milb guys or whatever. Really it would probably just be a salary dump of $4mm per year or whatever he is at now.

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Look at his numbers, even last year. Jabroni is far more valuable than a salary dump. He's a good, proven MLB starter.

McHugh could fit on a lot of teams who need backend help or someone to eat innings. Two years of control left and cheaper money wise than signing a guy like Cashner Chacin or Vargas, probably better too assuming good health

I think we’re still trying to find a better catching partner in than Stassi and there’s the LH reliever spot but I don’t see any other glaring needs at the ML level

McHugh could be a decent backend option for a good team and could also be someone a rebuilding team flips for prospects at the deadline. Orioles are a really good fit and have been mentioned with a lot of the more budget rotation type FAs (if we wanted to deal with them again). Twins are a team that should be good and needs rotation help in the worst way. Pretty much any of the rebuilding teams could use a guy who can eat innings (Tigers Reds A’s Phillies) but I doubt you’re going to get prospects from one of those clubs, would likely have to be a ML player

You can't fool me. Once a Jabroni, always a Jabroni.

Anyone else still feel like he won’t make it to Houston this year unless there are some injuries?

I understand that he’s an elite prospect, but do they want to rush him? Especially when you have Martes and Armentores coming up in line as well.

I think this FO has shown if you continue to perform at a high level they’re going to keep advancing you. If he keeps dominating they will bring him up even if it’s as a reliever. And there will be injuries to starters, both real ones and instances where they use the 10 day DL to rest guys

They're hoping if he has a good 2018, then he will likely be called up at the beginning of 2019.

Martes needs some time in the minors as well.

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Ludlow