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re: DAT: 2017 World Champions Houston Astros offseason discussion: ASTROS ACQUIRE GERRIT COLE
Posted on 1/14/18 at 1:49 pm to ThatMakesSense
Posted on 1/14/18 at 1:49 pm to ThatMakesSense
quote:yep. Give them full seasons in minors unless they absolutely force the issue
Where does Armenteros and Whitley fit in there
Corpus Christi and Fresno.
Allows another year deal on arbitration clocks
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Posted on 1/14/18 at 2:19 pm to Rouge
frick. It's still not April.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 3:06 pm to Lsuhoohoo
Less than a month till pitchers and catchers report though......and a shitload of pitchers will report
Posted on 1/14/18 at 3:20 pm to Adam Banks
Would still love a deal for Realmuto. C is our only weakness left, IMO.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 3:44 pm to Off McVoy
Probably a better chance of picking up a LH reliever than a C at this point
Posted on 1/14/18 at 3:57 pm to Adam Banks
Just saw this tweet.
Brings a good point that "tanking to acquire talent" is no guarantee. The moves along the way had to be well researched and well scouted. There were a couple bumps-Appel Aiken and the Gomez trade, but they didnt compound the moves with being stubborn-cut bait on Appel early enough to get Giles, turned aiken into bregman and got a "throw away filler" with Fiers who despite his faults played a key role in getting us to two playoffs.
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The way the Astros have created this current monster of a team is a blueprint many will attempt or are attempting to emulate with zero guarantee of similar results.
Brings a good point that "tanking to acquire talent" is no guarantee. The moves along the way had to be well researched and well scouted. There were a couple bumps-Appel Aiken and the Gomez trade, but they didnt compound the moves with being stubborn-cut bait on Appel early enough to get Giles, turned aiken into bregman and got a "throw away filler" with Fiers who despite his faults played a key role in getting us to two playoffs.
This post was edited on 1/14/18 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:00 pm to Adam Banks
Like you said there were failed moves that people focus on but this front office’s hit rate is extremely high. We are fricking stacked with talent baws
This post was edited on 1/14/18 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:07 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
After seeing what the Cubs and now Astros did I could see more teams attempt it. Especially teams that have sucked for a decent amount of time. Although not all teams will get lucky like the Cubs and Stros who had picks that actually became stars.
Mark Appel people will not focus on, Bregman, Correa, etc they will.
Mark Appel people will not focus on, Bregman, Correa, etc they will.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:10 pm to tduecen
quote:they also will only focus on the cubs and astros instead of the teams like the phillies, padres, or braves who tried absolutely tanking and they either never got over the hump or we are still trying to figure out how their rebuild has gone
Mark Appel people will not focus on, Bregman, Correa, etc they will.
rebuilding is hard no matter the strategy because building a winning team is hard
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:11 pm to WestCoastAg
Would yall give up McHugh/Tucker for Realmuto?
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:14 pm to WestCoastAg
Not sure I would call what the Braves did tanking.... It seemed like they were going to try then went out and traded for and signed a lot of vets....
Padres/Phillies I'm not sure they actively tried to tank, I know after the Padres went out and picked up Kemp among others they traded off but it never felt like they were purposely trying to finish in last place.
The Marlins right now are in tank mode, I'm waiting for them to trade the last remaining players worth a damn.
Padres/Phillies I'm not sure they actively tried to tank, I know after the Padres went out and picked up Kemp among others they traded off but it never felt like they were purposely trying to finish in last place.
The Marlins right now are in tank mode, I'm waiting for them to trade the last remaining players worth a damn.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:17 pm to tduecen
quote:they went out and brought in vets that had no value to anyone else. they were bringing in placeholders while they waited for players like swansby and acuna and albies to come up
It seemed like they were going to try then went out and traded for and signed a lot of vets...
quote:the phillies have been trying to organically build a winner since like 2013 while they were trying to get out from under all of their death contracts and the padres have been punting on their teams since their moves in 2014 bombed
I know after the Padres went out and picked up Kemp among others they traded off but it never felt like they were purposely trying to finish in last place.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:23 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:True but these vets showed enough that kept them from a complete tank job as well.
they went out and brought in vets that had no value to anyone else. they were bringing in placeholders while they waited for players like swansby and acuna and albies to come up
quote:Part of the reason it doesn't feel like they were tanking is that they didn't trade a lot of young players that seemed to have value. They haven't drafted well that much is for sure as well.
the phillies have been trying to organically build a winner since like 2013 while they were trying to get out from under all of their death contracts and the padres have been punting on their teams since their moves in 2014 bombed
Anyway, enough clogging the Astros thread about this, we can continue in the other thread.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:37 pm to tduecen
Damn watching the Saints makes me wish baseball season would hurry up and get here even more.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:52 pm to Off McVoy
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:54 pm to dhav14
Bullpen Joe 
Posted on 1/14/18 at 5:00 pm to dhav14
Easy guy to root for. Wish him nothing but the best. 
Posted on 1/14/18 at 5:35 pm to dhav14
Classy message by Musgrove. Got his ring, and hopefully he can shine and show the league what he can do in Pittsburgh as a starter. You'll always have love from me Musgrove.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 5:59 pm to lsusportsman2
I will definitely be rooting for Musgrove
Posted on 1/14/18 at 7:42 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
Well at least one of my teams didn't choke in the post season. Is it baseball season yet? 
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