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College Basketball Bribery scandal: Clemson football brought up

Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:06 pm
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Today in federal court, FBI video wiretaps were played that included former USC assistant coach Tony Bland talking to Christian Dawkins about establishing a recruitment and payment scheme for then-prospect Marvin Bagley III.

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Another video wiretap was played that included Clemson assistant coach Steve Smith talking to Christian Dawkins and an undercover FBI agent about the recruitment and potential payments to be made to Zion Williamson's family. These wiretaps were caught in July of 2017.

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We are on a short break and there is a lot to share, much of which will have to wait until court breaks later.

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Clemson football was also discussed via wiretap by Clemson basketball asst coach Steve Smith like this, in relation to Zion hoops recruitment: "That's why football is so successful, is if you do it and use resources at Clemson, like you can really keep everything tight.


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Clemson asst Steve Smith knew the exact time it took to get from Clemson's arena to Zion's house—1 hour, 4 minutes—and is caught joking, telling a story about how had to pretend to Brad Brownell about not knowing the route/distance the first time they both went to see Zion there.

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Christian Dawkins, who was in the Vegas hotel room caught on video wiretap, discussing Zion recruitment: "Duke is gonna have their resources. UNC is UNC. Kentucky is gonna have their resources."

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Under oath, Marty Blazer said he understood Dawkins to be saying: "Duke, UNC and Kentucky will have people in place to pay whatever's necessary for Zion Williamson. Whatever Zion Williamson's family needed, we would be able to step in and [help with money] if it was close."

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Blazer testified—testimony supported by video taps—that 13k was given to Tony Bland (USC), $11,700 was given to AAU coach for L'ville, 6k was given to Preston Murphy (Creighton), 6k was given to Corey Barker (TCU) an4 $4,500 to Lamont Evans (then @ Okla. St) in Vegas in July 17.

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Other coaches from Arizona St (Anthony Coleman), Clemson (Steve Smith), UConn (Raphael Chillious), Texas A&M (Amir Abdur-Rahim) met w/ Dawkins, Blazer and undercover agents, but didn't receive $ b/c they weren't consider worthy enough yet, i.e. they didn't have pull w/ prospects

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There's more, but gotta head back in. Direct examination is still ongoing of Blazer. He's yet to face cross, and might not until Friday.
Posted by TechDawg2007
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:08 pm to
Can we just all agree that EVERYONE cheats?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:08 pm to
The NCAA is shitting their pants right now
Posted by SCLibertarian
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:11 pm to
A cheating scandal that destroys Clemson's football program is the only way we have a chance to beat them in the foreseeable future.
Posted by airlinehwypanhandler
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:12 pm to
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Corey Barker (TCU)


What makes me laugh about this one is that he wasn't even cheating for TCU, but for Kentucky
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:13 pm to
Meh. Nothing is going to happen
Posted by Glorious
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:13 pm to
Yea anyone who reaches into Alabama, a state with two schools that definitely pay for play, and plucks blue chip recruits is probably cheating
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:15 pm to
They broke the golden rule.



They beat Bama.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:16 pm to
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Can we just all agree that EVERYONE cheats?


of course everyone cheats, but you still have to punish people for it becuase if the NCAA appears to not give the slightest shite and says "yeah, eveyrone does it but it's too hard to stop so oh well" then you've just complete anarchy. People still have to have SOME fear of getting caught.
Posted by BigPerm30
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:18 pm to
Let’s just suspend all the coaches for their respective playoffs. Seems like a reasonable assessment.
Posted by Bench McElroy
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:19 pm to
They need to investigate the real reason for Clemson's football success.


Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:22 pm to
The NCAA is becoming increasingly scared of going after big money football and basketball programs

Those schools arent far off from telling the NCAA to frick off, we are starting our own leagues
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:25 pm to
Yup. That’s what makes their cheating worse. A car dealer throwing a Cadillac a kid’s way is one thing. Using a church as your front is absolutely despicable.

frick them and everything about them.
Posted by 1999
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:27 pm to
pretty sure that's how most of its done nowadays. chances are high the school you root for is doing it.
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:31 pm to
Our big money donors don’t care enough to do it or don’t believe we have to do it to compete. That’s our problem.

That and our athletes can’t fart in 5 Points without the local media blowing it up. I’m not saying The State should become a propaganda piece for the University by any means, but they can at least stop trying to shite all over our university and athletes and build their name on our troubles.
Posted by Hook Em Horns
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:35 pm to
That’s rich coming from you. You are the literal capstone school of cheating. Please go sit down somewhere.
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:36 pm to
So everyone cheats except for your school/team?
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Posted by nicholastiger
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:37 pm to
Zion and Bagley - Coach K and Duke are so dirty or was it Capel?
Posted by Rep520
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:43 pm to
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Under oath, Marty Blazer said he understood Dawkins to be saying: "Duke, UNC and Kentucky will have people in place to pay whatever's necessary for Zion Williamson. Whatever Zion Williamson's family needed, we would be able to step in and [help with money] if it was close." 


Well, good thing Dickie V has his earmuffs on.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:46 pm to
This makes LSU’s admin look so retarded

Look at the schools being name dropped. It’s amazing they caved to a yahoo article
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