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re: College all star team vs MLB team
Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:08 am to PP7 for heisman
Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:08 am to PP7 for heisman
You are delusional and clearly don’t watch enough MLB baseball. I’ll use this as an example. Jared Jones the best first baseman in college baseball’s highest exit velo is 112 MPH with a metal bat. Konnor Griffin the LSU commit who signed with the Pirates out of high school as the 8th pick in the draft hit a ball 111 MPH with a wooden bat yesterday. He’s 18 years old and that is in single A. I heard Ben McDonald say the other day on an LSU broadcast they need to make the metal bats safer because we don’t need 104 mph come backers to the pitcher. You do realize Oneil Cruz hit a ball 121.5 Mph last season. It’s just a different kind of talent. Pro Golf and Baseball are 2 games light years better than the amateur level. Even Paul Skenes had to learn 3 new pitches to be as dominant as he is. You Plug LSU Paul Skenes in the majors he probably has a 4.40 era (which is still ridiculous by the way). I love LSU baseball but sometimes our fans seem to underestimate how big of a step the SEC is to High A baseball. And to touch on someone else’s point the white Sox have 2 golden spikes winners on their team. They suck and would be a college all star team 28-1
This post was edited on 4/7/25 at 7:22 am
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Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:45 am to reauxl tigers
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Baseball is not like football. An all star team of college players would be better than the 2024 White Sox.
No, they wouldn't. All of the players on the White Sox who went to college destroyed college ball.
Andrew Vaughn- Put up a .374/.495/.688 line and was one of the most heralded college hitters of all-time
Andrew Benintendi- Hit .326/.431/.526 at Arkansas
Travis Janikowski- Was a .389/.452/.553 hitter in college
Matt Thaiss- Hit .339/.427/.521 in college
Korey Lee- Hit .299/.377.516 when he was at Cal-Berkeley
Mike Tauchmann- Hit .360/.461/.471 in college
Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:49 am to CoachSlatt22
Comparing Jared jones’ exit velocity to oneil cruz is silly. Because every other major league player won’t hit a ball 121 ever, either.
The hardest ball Bryce Harper hit last year was 113. For Freddie freeman, 112. Mookie betts 109.
These are all HOFers. Jared jones hits the ball very hard by any standard.
The hardest ball Bryce Harper hit last year was 113. For Freddie freeman, 112. Mookie betts 109.
These are all HOFers. Jared jones hits the ball very hard by any standard.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:53 am to reauxl tigers
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An all star team of college players would be better than the 2024 White Sox.
Over the course of 162 games how many do you think the college players win
Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:59 am to Lester Earl
That’s still exit velos with wooded bats. I’m not comparing him to Oneil Cruz. I’m comparing him to an 18 year old kid in single A. The college all star team would be a middle of the road AA team
This post was edited on 4/7/25 at 8:02 am
Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:39 am to Adam Banks
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With an offseason of MLB training, mlb spring training, mlb pitching development etc.
He didn’t learn anything in those few months. He simply got to rest from being rode like a damn work horse in his season
This post was edited on 4/7/25 at 8:41 am
Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:45 am to PP7 for heisman
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People will say what they want but that team takes 2/3 from the worst team in the MLB.
The reason they have various minor leagues is that it allows players to get acclimated to increasing levels of competition gradually. College players would get their shite kicked in by a pro team.
College pitchers maybe face a couple of future decent MLB players a game at most. The worst hitter for the White Sox is somewhere in the top of the order on any college team if you took him and put him on one randomly.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:56 am to VolSquatch
The worst hitter for the white Sox is hitting 40 homers and winning the golden spikes if he currently played in college.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 9:17 am to ClientNumber9
No way the MLB worst team would lose. A more interesting question would be what if you took the worst starter (statistically) of each position in MLB and play the best in CB. Now would that CB team win in a 3 game series? Probably not. 
Posted on 4/7/25 at 9:27 am to lsupride87
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He didn’t learn anything in those few months. He simply got to rest from being rode like a damn work horse in his season
He literally gained a new pitch that became a signature out pitch.
This post was edited on 4/7/25 at 9:34 am
Posted on 4/7/25 at 9:44 am to PP7 for heisman
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In 23, you could run out a rotation of:
1. Skenes
2. Lowder
3. Walters
Lineup of:
1. Crews RF
2. Caglione LF
3. Langord CF
4. Tommy White 3B
5. Nolan Schanuel 1B
6. Jacob Wilson SS
7. Nick Kurtz DH
8. Christian Moore 2B
9. Kyle Teel C
People will say what they want but that team takes 2/3 from the worst team in the MLB.
Who's coming out of the bullpen? Or do you expect the starters to go 9? Because that's definitely going to play a larger role in winning than you seem to expect.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 9:58 am to Adam Banks
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Supposedly, college baseball is on par with AA play
Says who?
Nowhere clos
SEC Friday nights probably have AA equivalent arms. But not all of college baseball. That is not even in the ballpark.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 10:00 am to AUFANATL
quote:This is true. There is a 0% chance an NFL team would lose, maybe a 2% chance a NBA team would lose, and I know nothing about hockey but seeing how lobsided international matches end like 9-0 I don't think that's happening either.
It's probably the only scenario where a college team from any sport could beat their pro equivalents.
With baseball, if you catch a team on an off night midseason after they haven't had a day off in 3 weeks and you have a pitcher who's hot and batted balls just aren't dropping, you'd have a chance.
I think if a team could hold up stamina wise, a college all star team would win 20-25 games in a season.
This post was edited on 4/7/25 at 10:00 am
Posted on 4/7/25 at 10:32 am to CoachSlatt22
quote:And middle of the road AA teams can beat MLB teams. Kramer Robertson hit a homerun off of Clayton Kershaw in a rehab start.
The college all star team would be a middle of the road AA team
This hypothetical wasn't posed as a season long affair. It was a 3 game series. The 2024 white sox aren't the best example because they had a shite ton of talent, just none of it peaked at the right time. The 2023 A's (2023 college team) is what I was basing this argument off of. That team was fricking terrible. They had multiple starters who were average to above average college bats. Their starting rotation was awful. They had one "great" college pitcher in their rotation.
The 2023 college baseball season was as star studded as we've had in quite some time. They could take 2/3 from the 2023 Oakland A's. They're not winning 7/10, but that was one of the few times where they could take 2/3.
Also, Skenes had the 4SFB, CH, SW, SL, CB, and SNK at LSU. He didn't have the splitter in its' current form.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 10:53 am to PP7 for heisman
And in rehab starts, pitchers are often working on specific things and they're not too concerned with the "outcome" of their performance.
I don't think there's an understanding of the monumental difference between the off speed pitches and the ability to disguise those pitches of MLB pitchers and MiLB pitchers, much less college pitchers. No way a college all star team is consistently making solid contact against a healthy diet of MLB sliders and curve balls using wooden bats.
I don't think there's an understanding of the monumental difference between the off speed pitches and the ability to disguise those pitches of MLB pitchers and MiLB pitchers, much less college pitchers. No way a college all star team is consistently making solid contact against a healthy diet of MLB sliders and curve balls using wooden bats.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 11:01 am to ClientNumber9
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Supposedly, college baseball is on par with AA play
Not close.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 11:06 am to ClientNumber9
what type of bats are the college all stars using?
Posted on 4/7/25 at 11:07 am to PP7 for heisman
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2023 A's (2023 college team) is what I was basing this argument off of. That team was fricking terrible.
And had the SEC player of the year Tony kemp on it and sec player of the year jj bleday.
Multiple all conference pitchers for the ones who didn’t get drafted in top round out of high school and performed at levels in the minors that are higher than college.
Even a team actively tanking has elite college talent
This post was edited on 4/7/25 at 11:32 am
Posted on 4/7/25 at 11:27 am to PP7 for heisman
Skenes just added a sinker this year. He had a 4 seem CB(sweeper) Slider and change up at LSU. A double AA would get destroyed by an mlb team. This is not spring training when mlb pitchers are trying different stuff.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 11:31 am to ClientNumber9
Idk , but in the past few seasons many College guy have been called up before the all star break and right after it.
The college baseball game is higher quality the most people think .
Now do a AAA squad vs a college team and that shows high end college guys are on par or very close to AAA
The college baseball game is higher quality the most people think .
Now do a AAA squad vs a college team and that shows high end college guys are on par or very close to AAA
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