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Cal, Stanford and SMU to the ACC are again under consideration

Posted on 8/23/23 at 2:57 pm
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 8/23/23 at 2:57 pm
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Sources: The potential additions of Cal, Stanford and SMU to the ACC are again under serious consideration by the ACC. A small group of ACC presidents met Wednesday morning to discuss financial models that would come with the additions.

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Those models are are expected to include significant financial concessions from the school that will be added.

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More meetings are expected this week. Just one vote is needed among the block of UNC, N.C. State, Clemson and FSU to get the three new schools in, assuming all the yes votes are in agreement with the financial arrangements. A realistic timeline for a decision is about one week.

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There’s expected to be a pool of money created from these additions, and the ACC presidents are discussing how the money would be split. The mechanics of that are still to be worked out, including a performance pool for success initiatives.

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The concessions expected from SMU include a willingness to take no broadcast media revenue for the first seven years they are in the league. Stanford and Cal would both receive the same share, which will both be reduced but different in form than SMU's concessions.


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San Francisco Chronicle, which is reporting that Cal, Stanford and SMU are "in the process of finalizing a deal" to join the ACC in football as well as men's and women's basketball.
This post was edited on 8/24/23 at 2:24 pm
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
31328 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 2:59 pm to
sounds like the nc schools are about to fold. i imagine clemson/fsu are losing their minds.
Posted by Lawyered
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Member since Oct 2016
34695 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 3:01 pm to
The heated Stanford- Wake Forest rivalry.

Separated by only 3,000 miles . The anti-Duke/UNC
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
55883 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 3:02 pm to
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
25300 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 3:07 pm to
This is fricking insanity.

Let those uppity shits on the west coast row crewe and have fencing tournaments against New Mexico State and Wyoming.
Posted by Swagga
504
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 8/23/23 at 3:08 pm to
This will be the death blow to the ACC if it happens. The SEC will have their pick of the litter if they want any of them.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
51672 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 3:10 pm to
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More meetings are expected this week. Just one vote is needed among the block of UNC, N.C. State, Clemson and FSU to get the three new schools in


Why would any of them vote yes? They should want the conference disintegrated so they can leave
Posted by tccdc
Washington, DC
Member since Sep 2007
3786 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 3:13 pm to
Same old ACC....instead of going after great state schools like WVU (yeah, still hate them), lets add more schools who put football about 100th.

Makes no sense...even if ACC added 90 million dollars to the package...it is only a few million for each school...unless they plan to give Clemson and FSU 30 million more

Train wreck...
Posted by tigeroarz1
Winston-Salem, NC
Member since Oct 2013
3661 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 3:54 pm to
Apparently Notre Dame is the main school that is really pushing this. They aren’t even a member in football. So weird.
Posted by CunningLinguist
Dallas, TX
Member since Mar 2006
19069 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 3:56 pm to
That is crazy. Those schools have huge endowments and I’m assuming all 3 will have to take a dip into endowments to fund athletic departments for x amount of years. The academic community at those schools will cause an uproar
Posted by Boodis Man
Member since Sep 2020
6601 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 3:58 pm to
Yep. The ACC will just become an academic conference once the sec/B1G pluck the remaining football schools.
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
31328 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 4:01 pm to
SMU i am guessing has some pretty serious pledges from boosters. let's see if they truly have frick you money.
Posted by tigeralum06
Member since Oct 2007
2845 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 4:06 pm to
Spoiler - They do.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
23859 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 4:07 pm to
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Why would any of them vote yes? They should want the conference disintegrated so they can leave

NC State has the most incentive to vote yes because they're the only one that might not get an invite from the SEC or B1G.
Posted by TulaneFan
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2008
14092 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 4:10 pm to
The biggest problem with the ACC over the years is too many dead weight teams so their solution is to add more dead weight
Posted by Jrv2damac
Kanorado
Member since Mar 2004
70026 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 4:11 pm to
Nothing says Atlantic coast like two pacific coast schools and one on the Gulf of Mexico

What a fricking joke

Posted by BlueWaffleHouse
LA
Member since Jul 2012
1954 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 4:15 pm to
They can keep the same acronym and just call it the “American Coastal Conference” ???
Posted by Jrv2damac
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Member since Mar 2004
70026 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 4:16 pm to
It’s not incorrect.


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BlueWaffleHouse


That is disgusting.

Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
23859 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 4:24 pm to
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Apparently Notre Dame is the main school that is really pushing this. They aren’t even a member in football. So weird.
ND stands to get fricked if the ACC dissolves. They have a pretty vested interest in its survival, even if they aren't a football member.

If the ACC folds, ND needs a new conference for their other sports.

B1G would be the natural choice, but B1G would have leverage and could tell ND that they join in all sports or not at all. SEC wouldn't add ND without football either.

SEC and B1G would both be absorbing a couple of ACC teams, and likely going to a schedule of 9 or 10 conference games as a result. Which means teams are less likely to schedule a top level opponent non-conference anymore. So now ND as an independent may have a difficult time putting together the type of quality of schedule they need to maximize their TV media rights value.

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TLDR: ACC dissolving is probably the most likely impetus to force Notre Dame to join a conference in football.
This post was edited on 8/23/23 at 4:29 pm
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
42785 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 4:32 pm to
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“If you put those two schools in the ACC, it’s going to be so easy for them to recruit nationally. So it will just benefit them in my opinion, not us. There’s no way I want to share the glory of our conference with two schools that could do a very good job recruiting against us.”

“So basically I want Cal and Stanford die on the vine. I look forward to seeing Stanford, which is a really difficult school to recruit against, I would look forward to them basically having it so difficult to recruit the elite soccer player, and then we would be in the position to gain those kids and put the ACC in an even stronger position.” UNC women’s soccer coach Anson Dorrance


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The addition of Stanford and Cal to the ACC has been viewed by many as a non-starter, with Neal Pilson, former CBS Sports president, telling On3 Sports, “I don’t think either or both Cal and Stanford add sufficient value to an ACC TV package to induce the conference or ESPN to add them to the agreement. And the travel costs to the two schools for football, basketball and multiple Olympic sports would be prohibitive.”


How many years of media rights is Stanford willing to give up?

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