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Baseball Strategy - two straight intentional walks
Posted on 8/17/16 at 9:53 pm
Posted on 8/17/16 at 9:53 pm
Just got home from the game between the Columbia Fireflies (Mets Class A affiliate) and our Asheville Tourists (Rockies Class A affiliate). Tourists went into the bottom of the 9th down 6-3; loaded the bases with one out. Rockies 2015 first round draft pick triples driving in 3 runs making the score 6-6.
Now, Tourists winning run on third with one out. Fireflies elect to intentionally walk next two batters loading the bases with one out. Tourists batter ready for the pitch - it's a WP and the winning run scores from third.
What's anybody's thoughts on loading the bases in this situation? The first batter they walked was a .350 hitter, one of the leading hitters in the Sally League. The second batter they walked was about a .240 hitter.
Now, Tourists winning run on third with one out. Fireflies elect to intentionally walk next two batters loading the bases with one out. Tourists batter ready for the pitch - it's a WP and the winning run scores from third.
What's anybody's thoughts on loading the bases in this situation? The first batter they walked was a .350 hitter, one of the leading hitters in the Sally League. The second batter they walked was about a .240 hitter.
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Posted on 8/17/16 at 9:56 pm to blueridgeTiger
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winning run on third with one out.
Makes sense, set up a force at home (every base) for that matter.
Posted on 8/17/16 at 9:56 pm to blueridgeTiger
Might as well, runner at 3rd is only one that matters.
Posted on 8/17/16 at 9:59 pm to blueridgeTiger
I'm ok with loading the bases with one out, tie game, bottom of the ninth.Neither of those runs count. A pop fly to the outfield most likely scores the winning run. Any ball hit to the infield there is a force out at home at the very least, provided the infielders are playing in. The first option is to turn two and get to the plate. Second option is a force out at home and get the next batter out.
I'd be much more pissed at the closer for blowing a three run lead than walking bases loaded.
I'd be much more pissed at the closer for blowing a three run lead than walking bases loaded.
Posted on 8/17/16 at 10:00 pm to blueridgeTiger
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Tourists batter ready for the pitch - it's a WP and the winning run scores from third.
He would've scored anyways since he was on third. I like when minor league teams do things you wouldn't see in MLB
Posted on 8/17/16 at 10:02 pm to blueridgeTiger
You're going to be playing up regardless.. Bases loaded allows for the force at home.
Posted on 8/17/16 at 10:06 pm to blueridgeTiger
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Tourists batter ready for the pitch - it's a WP and the winning run scores from third
-Vin Scully
Posted on 8/17/16 at 10:09 pm to blueridgeTiger
I think it puts too much pressure on the pitcher not to walk the winning run in.
Posted on 8/17/16 at 10:12 pm to blueridgeTiger
Pretty standard. Or you can walk only the first guy, and lose the force at home. Either way I'm not pitching to a .350 hitter there.
The reply above mine is another reason to walk only one guy.
The reply above mine is another reason to walk only one guy.
This post was edited on 8/17/16 at 10:13 pm
Posted on 8/17/16 at 10:14 pm to TheWalrus
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I think it puts too much pressure on the pitcher not to walk the winning run in.
Yeah, that's my issue with intentionally walking the bases loaded as well. It leaves no room for error.
Posted on 8/17/16 at 10:29 pm to TheWalrus
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I think it puts too much pressure on the pitcher not to walk the winning run in.
agreed. the force is nice. but with no margin for error, it gives the pitcher less room to work for the strikeout.
Posted on 8/18/16 at 7:10 am to The Seaward
Well based on run expectancy charts from the last 15 years. The two scenarios only differ by .3% as far as the odds at least one runs scores(bases loaded is lower).
1st and 3rd is 2.3% lower than bases loaded.
That's probably what I would go with.
1st and 3rd is 2.3% lower than bases loaded.
That's probably what I would go with.
Posted on 8/18/16 at 7:16 am to blueridgeTiger
I never thought I'd see a thread mentioning the Columbia Fireflies on here. Awesome.
Posted on 8/18/16 at 7:17 am to blueridgeTiger
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The first batter they walked was a .350 hitter, one of the leading hitters in the Sally League. The second batter they walked was about a .240 hitter.
I'd have walked the first guy, then had my MI set up at double play depth, with the OF and corners in.
If the .240 hitter gets a hit or sac fly, then the run is scoring regardless.
And having the base open still allows the pitching to at least challenge the weaker hitter and not worry too much about the walk.
Posted on 8/18/16 at 10:12 am to 4LSU2
I'd pitch to that .240 hitter....because he's a .240 hitter and because pitcher is liable to throw batting practice pitches to ensure he doesn't walk anyone with bags full.
Posted on 8/18/16 at 10:25 am to blueridgeTiger
you should walk the first hitter, but not the second hitter.
Posted on 8/18/16 at 10:29 am to TheWalrus
quote:It's high risk high reward. LSU had something similar in the regionals or supers (cant remember) where they had 0 outs and played infielders with bases loaded. Somehow got out of that one.
I think it puts too much pressure on the pitcher not to walk the winning run in.
Posted on 8/18/16 at 10:33 am to J Murdah
think it was the SEC tournament.
got the first out somehow, then got a line drive double play to third.
got the first out somehow, then got a line drive double play to third.
Posted on 8/18/16 at 10:40 am to LSUBoo
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I'd have walked the first guy, then had my MI set up at double play depth, with the OF and corners in.
Only problem being that with corners in, the runner at first will take a huge lead and probably negate the double play...
Posted on 8/18/16 at 10:53 am to TROLA
What? The first baseman is already "playing in" while holding the runner at first on.
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