re: Anybody have high-def pics of Holmes not catching the TD?

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There was another angle from behind the QB that showed both feet down. This seemed to be a much clearer shot.

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That's the shot I am referring to. I thought as most of you do that his foot came up on the back of his left foot. But after the shot Rouge mentioned, it was clear he had both feet down.

Another play that sticks out is the pick 6. At first i thought his knee went down right before crossing the goal line. But after another angle you could see his knee come down on Fitz's leg. Good thing for high def.

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It was still in his hand and he pushed it forward, an almost carbon copy of the play they reviewed in the first half and ruled and incomplete pass

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I think Madden and Michaels referred to this as an empty hand. The difference in the two plays was the first one Warner had the ball in hand when moving it forward, and the second Warner had an empty hand when moving it forward.

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. It looked like his arm was going forward to me

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Woodley has his hand on the ball, knocking it out before Warner's arm goes fwd.

Slow, look on nola.com sometime this afternoon and they should have a photo gallery of the game and probably a few pics of the catch in question. I just checked and there wasn't one up yet.

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an almost carbon copy of the play they reviewed in the first half and ruled and incomplete pass

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The pass in the first half was a damn spiral. How can you say it was a carbon copy? First half pass was clearly a throw and was never close to being knocked loose (should have been ruled intentional grounding after review though).

I'm torn on whether or not the last play was a pass or a fumble. I have no problem with it being ruled a fumble on the field but I cannot believe it didn't go into the booth for further review. Isn't it upstairs that has to ring down for that? Just a little information for those blaming the refs on the field for that one, I think the call had to come from upstairs and never did.

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it was a catch brah

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A damn fine on too.

jake you're starting to sound like a bit of a nutjob with this goodell conspiracy theory stuff

it's more of hyperbole. i don't actually think goodell is on the phone during the game ordering anything around

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Proving a negative is impossible. The burden was to prove that it was a catch. That's what we ended up with.

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The rule states you shouldn't overturn the CALL ON THE FIELD (which was a catch) without indisputable evidence.

The ref was right there and looked at his feet and saw what he believed to be in. Then, after looking at slow replay, we still couldn't see any reason to turn over the call.