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re: Alternate Universe BCS Championship Games
Posted on 5/19/20 at 1:31 am to lsutigers1992
Posted on 5/19/20 at 1:31 am to lsutigers1992
Florida should be 01.
2
Posted on 5/19/20 at 1:52 am to Gatorbait2008
The ending of 2001 was absolutely crazy.
CU throttled Nebraska
Florida was next in line but lost to Tennessee in an epic game
Texas was next in line but lost to Colorado in the Big 12 title
Tennessee was next in line but lost to LSU in Atlanta
Then you had the great debate about Nebraska being 2, but not winning their division, or 2-loss Colorado getting into the title game, or Oregon being left out.
CU throttled Nebraska
Florida was next in line but lost to Tennessee in an epic game
Texas was next in line but lost to Colorado in the Big 12 title
Tennessee was next in line but lost to LSU in Atlanta
Then you had the great debate about Nebraska being 2, but not winning their division, or 2-loss Colorado getting into the title game, or Oregon being left out.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 2:12 am to TexasTiger08
my parents were friends with a member of the tournament of roses so my dad and i got tickets to the 01, or 02 i guess, game. in front of us were some dudes who were oregon alums and they were there to simply cheer for nebraska hoping the huskers would win and get oregon to number 1 
Posted on 5/19/20 at 2:15 am to TexasTiger08
Lost in that madness was Miami nearly face-planting at the finish line in Blacksburg.
They blew a comfortable lead by getting absolutely gashed by Kevin Jones, but VT dropped a wide open 2 pt conversion to send it to OT.
They blew a comfortable lead by getting absolutely gashed by Kevin Jones, but VT dropped a wide open 2 pt conversion to send it to OT.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 4:51 am to dawgfan24348
quote:You guys keep saying this. It has become almost a meme. It was the entire selling point of UGA's plea to get into the BCS title. "but but. . .hottest team at the end of the year"
Georgia, they were the hottest team in the country at the end of the season
You blew out Auburn, but played just ok in the other 5 games. Calling that team "hot" has always been such an oversell, and is generally only relative.
USC was a "hotter team than UGA. They were blowing the doors off people.
UTk was as hot as UGA. They lost to LSU in the SECCG, but were on a tear before that. UGA didn't even warrant an SECCG appearance.
Kansas dropped their only game late, but were wrecking their schedule.
VaTech was on a 5 game rip, as well.
I, personally, think the "hottest team at the end of the year" was an inside joke to sports announcers. . .and UGA fans latched onto it, because what other argument did they have?
tOSU dropped a game against the Illini, but whipped the shite out of the rest of their schedule. I'd say tOSU was the hottest team in the country in 2007.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 6:26 am to lsutigers1992
1998: Tennessee vs. K State
2000: Oklahoma vs. Miami
2001: Miami vs. Colorado
2003: LSU vs. USC
2004: USC vs. Auburn
2006: Ohio State vs. Michigan
2007: Ohio State vs. Georgia
2008: Florida vs. Texas
2011: LSU vs. Oklahoma State
2012: Alabama vs. Ohio State
2000: Oklahoma vs. Miami
2001: Miami vs. Colorado
2003: LSU vs. USC
2004: USC vs. Auburn
2006: Ohio State vs. Michigan
2007: Ohio State vs. Georgia
2008: Florida vs. Texas
2011: LSU vs. Oklahoma State
2012: Alabama vs. Ohio State
Posted on 5/19/20 at 7:25 am to ctiger69
quote:
But Bama didnt jump ND. So they wouldn't have.
Because they didn't need to. They were safely in the title game so the voters left them alone. Alabama, Ohio State, and Notre Dame all had a common opponent that season, Michigan. Go check out those scores. Had Ohio State been eligible I'm confident that the human polls (2/3 of the system) would have had Alabama in. It would depend on how far Alabama lagged behind in the computers, but the margin would have been close.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 9:08 am to Ssubba
quote:
They were safely in the title game so the voters left them alone.
LOL if you think a 1 loss team gets in over undefeated Notre Dame and Ohio State. You can cry all day about how you were better and had a tougher schedule and deserved to be in. I wouldn't even disagree but history pretty clearly shows they would have undefeated P5/BCS level teams 1-2. There is actually precedent, in 99 Va Tech went over Nebraska, which at the time Nebraska was viewed like Bama was in 2012 and VT was a nobody, that was their coming out party.
ETA: in the late 90's early 2000's the Big XII was considered by many as the best confernce, 4 B12 teams were in the BCS top 15.
This post was edited on 5/19/20 at 9:12 am
Posted on 5/19/20 at 9:13 am to Gatorbait2008
quote:
Florida should be 01.
was the probably the 2nd best team but lost 2 games and didn't win the SEC East
Posted on 5/19/20 at 9:25 am to nvasil1
quote:
Funny how the computers kept out USC a couple years later, and suddenly the whole system was considered broken.
It was less SC being kept out and more OU going directly after getting blown out in their conference championship game.
Then, OU took another loss and the pressure to change started. I always wonder if it would have changed if OU beat LSU.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 9:52 am to Rep520
quote:
Funny how the computers kept out USC a couple years later, and suddenly the whole system was considered broken.
They changed the formula multiple times prior to 2003 to try and "fix" other problems. After FSU went over Miami in 2000 that added a "quality wins" component that added extra points or something that would have put Miami in the 2000 CG, it was literally like we don't like this result so lets just add a factor to get the result we wanted. 2003 was just the final straw and it wasn't because it was USC like some insecure LSU like to say, it just happened to be them. The whole idea was flawed from the get go, it was overly complicated when the whole purpose was to pick the #1 and #2 teams, if they just did that, using the traditional polls all along, like was used with the Bowl Alliance, no one would have ever complained.
quote:
I always wonder if it would have changed if OU beat LSU.
interesting question, same thing if USC had lost to Michigan, but my guess is yes, having the team that was #1 in the traditional polls left was something that they couldn't let happen again.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 9:56 am to lsutigers1992
Why wouldn’t 2013 Alabama vs FSU be on this list?
It seems like a natural for the list you’ve made.
It seems like a natural for the list you’ve made.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 9:58 am to Rep520
quote:
It was less SC being kept out and more OU going directly after getting blown out in their conference championship game
That's basically the point I'm making. Nebraska had gotten blown out two years earlier, didn't even make it to the conference championship game, and still went directly to the Rose Bowl. Yet I don't recall anyone pounding their fist about Oregon not getting their shot. Most of the support was behind 2-loss Colorado, which demonstrates how strongly the Big XII was viewed compared to the Pac 10 at the time.
I'm just saying, the computer rankings were only emphasized less by the BCS after OU got in and USC was left out. Even if OU had beaten LSU, 2000 and 2001 had questionable enough final rankings to force a change.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 10:03 am to WaterLink
That 2008 USC team was real good.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 10:25 am to ReauxlTide222
quote:
Why wouldn’t 2013 Alabama vs FSU be on this list?
It seems like a natural for the list you’ve made.
Auburn/Alabama played like an elimination game, and Auburn didn't win it anyway.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 10:47 am to S
quote:I mean, USC barely edged Auburn in 2002.
Probably because they had just beaten y’all back to back seasons.
2004 Auburn was completely different from 2003 and 2002, just like 2018 LSU and 2019 LSU. They took it to the next level and played up to the talent. The coaching also improved.
Past results don’t really mean anything.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 12:29 pm to lsutigers1992
1998: K State
2000: Oklahoma (2000 OU is a criminally underrated team)
2001: Miami
2003: USC
2004: USC (Carroll's USC teams were money in big games, especially on the road like the 2003 game would have been)
2006: Ohio State
2007: Georgia
2008: Florida
2011: LSU
2012: Alabama
2000: Oklahoma (2000 OU is a criminally underrated team)
2001: Miami
2003: USC
2004: USC (Carroll's USC teams were money in big games, especially on the road like the 2003 game would have been)
2006: Ohio State
2007: Georgia
2008: Florida
2011: LSU
2012: Alabama
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