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re: 680 million of Ohtani’s 700 mill contract is deferred until it’s over.

Posted on 12/11/23 at 5:42 pm to
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145174 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 5:42 pm to
so looks like the tax will even be a little less then first suggestted

sounds like its going to be 43.7mm
Posted by hiltacular
NYC
Member since Jan 2011
19678 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 5:49 pm to
Going to wait for some tax specialists to weigh in on the real value of this deal but it seems like the $700M number just isn’t the real value and it’s way lower. Of all people to be pissed, maybe it’s CA that has the most reasons to be pissed. $680M that will almost certainly be paid out elsewhere

ETA Ohtani is a unicorn and his off the field money is huge but this seems like such a dumb decision in general for most players. Like what if there is a catastrophic event that leads to the sport not existing 10 years from now lol. I’m curious how it would play out also if the dodgers ownership changed. New owners taking on $680M in debt essentially for a player not even around
This post was edited on 12/11/23 at 5:54 pm
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
11239 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 5:50 pm to
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the endorsement dollars slow down then maybe that's a benefit? Maybe??

He’ll turn 40, disappear into retirement, but then start getting the bulk of his original contract.
Posted by CarolinaGamecock99
Member since Apr 2015
21884 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 5:51 pm to
California politicians about to melt HARD
Posted by Forever
Member since Dec 2019
5741 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 5:54 pm to
Bro is going to have an “unfortunate” fatal brake failure when he’s driving home from his last game ever
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42661 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 5:54 pm to
Pulling a Tom Brady
MLB needs a cap
Posted by Boodis Man
Member since Sep 2020
4552 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 5:56 pm to
With inflation, that $680m is not going to be worth that 10 years from now….it’ll be worth less. This is an idiotic financial move on his part no matter how you slice it
Posted by Faulk2Tyler
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2023
260 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 5:56 pm to
He made 40 million in endorsements last year, topping every baseball player. They expect him to pick up a few more playing for a bigger franchise as well.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49406 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 6:00 pm to
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With inflation, that $680m is not going to be worth that 10 years from now….it’ll be worth less. This is an idiotic financial move on his part no matter how you slice it




That's why I said it's a great move for the team.

Quite possible/likely that $680 million is worth about $340million in todays dollars ten years from now.
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
89881 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 6:01 pm to
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That is terrible for him financially.


How do you figure?
Posted by hiltacular
NYC
Member since Jan 2011
19678 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 6:02 pm to
Well let’s say he makes $70 next year, 10% gains ultra ultra conservative, 77, now do that over 10 years and yeah he is leaving so much money on the table.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76526 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 6:03 pm to
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10% gains ultra ultra conservative


Posted by hiltacular
NYC
Member since Jan 2011
19678 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 6:06 pm to
Ohtani with $70M and an entire country behind him, I am confident he can turn that into an absolute ton. But again the guy has a ton so unless he is trying to own Amazon one day he is fine
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
18282 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 6:09 pm to
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Apparently if he isn't living in California at the end of his deal he won't have to pay taxes on the 68 million


Gavin Newsom
Is big mad.
Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
90541 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 6:12 pm to
What if he dies?


quote:

Well let’s say he makes $70 next year, 10% gains ultra ultra conservative, 77,


Lol

Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35348 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 6:13 pm to
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10% gains ultra ultra conservative


Wow
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
Simcoe Strip - He/Him/Helicopter
Member since Oct 2011
36371 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 6:15 pm to
In Beverly Hills eating ramen packs in his studio for the first 10
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
6593 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 6:22 pm to
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for (luxury) tax purposes is a 10 year 460mm deal

this is the only part I care about and I don't understand how MLB can allow it.

They are saying yeah you are paying him $700 million to pay baseball but since you are paying it in 20 years and it'll be worth less, you only pay luxury tax on 460million.

By the dodgers not having to pay that 700 million today, they can invest it as well. if anything charge them the luxury tax value of 70 million + interest
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145174 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 6:25 pm to
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eating ramen packs
thatsracist.gif
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59106 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 6:34 pm to
If the Dodgers are smart they will invest what the owe him, preferably not with Bernie Madoff and they will make money
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